Reflashed ECU and black grit?
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Chris you are funny man, Now it's a EVO Rs, what about the 10 other cars you were going to get, or the CF hood / Trunk. You are a trip man....
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Al - I'm glad this was brought up. My car is still running fine, but I'd really like to lean it out a little more to 11.5:1 A/Fs. I've been reading up on it. It seems that is about the uppermost safe limit without pulling timing. What do you think? I am done with mods on my blue Evo since I am going to be building an RS shortly. If it's worth the trouble, I'll drive up to Pruven and have you guys put in the fuel pump and re-DynoFlash my little monster. Thanks!
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Al - I'm glad this was brought up. My car is still running fine, but I'd really like to lean it out a little more to 11.5:1 A/Fs. I've been reading up on it. It seems that is about the uppermost safe limit without pulling timing. What do you think? I am done with mods on my blue Evo since I am going to be building an RS shortly. If it's worth the trouble, I'll drive up to Pruven and have you guys put in the fuel pump and re-DynoFlash my little monster. Thanks!
Chris
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If these figures are typical for a mail order tune what is typical for a STOCK EVO ?
3000 .......11.6
3500 .......11.5
4000 .......11.6
4500 .......10.4
5000 .......10.4
5500 .......10.6
6000 .......10.7
6500 .......10.3
7000 .......10.1
7500 .......10.2
3000 .......11.6
3500 .......11.5
4000 .......11.6
4500 .......10.4
5000 .......10.4
5500 .......10.6
6000 .......10.7
6500 .......10.3
7000 .......10.1
7500 .......10.2
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Very good question mike.....
As far as I have been told stock is richer,,,,,, my exhaust tip beggs to differ. Now if I go back to stock settings,, I should see even more black build up. But as far as I could tell I didnt have much of before the reflash.
And Al, im really not saying anything about your product, more woundering what is up with my situation? I spent $100 the other day to get these air to fuel numbers, only to see how my car is running and where it sets. And from the looks of it, it looks good and "safe" but that dosnt jive with the way my exhaust looks. Which black means it is running rich. This will be ok with me as long as down the road it dosnt mess with my cat., plugs, hot spots in the engine.
As far as I have been told stock is richer,,,,,, my exhaust tip beggs to differ. Now if I go back to stock settings,, I should see even more black build up. But as far as I could tell I didnt have much of before the reflash.
And Al, im really not saying anything about your product, more woundering what is up with my situation? I spent $100 the other day to get these air to fuel numbers, only to see how my car is running and where it sets. And from the looks of it, it looks good and "safe" but that dosnt jive with the way my exhaust looks. Which black means it is running rich. This will be ok with me as long as down the road it dosnt mess with my cat., plugs, hot spots in the engine.
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Originally posted by Michael A
If these figures are typical for a mail order tune what is typical for a STOCK EVO ?
3000 .......11.6
3500 .......11.5
4000 .......11.6
4500 .......10.4
5000 .......10.4
5500 .......10.6
6000 .......10.7
6500 .......10.3
7000 .......10.1
7500 .......10.2
If these figures are typical for a mail order tune what is typical for a STOCK EVO ?
3000 .......11.6
3500 .......11.5
4000 .......11.6
4500 .......10.4
5000 .......10.4
5500 .......10.6
6000 .......10.7
6500 .......10.3
7000 .......10.1
7500 .......10.2
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Originally posted by silvrevo
Very good question mike.....
As far as I have been told stock is richer,,,,,, my exhaust tip beggs to differ. Now if I go back to stock settings,, I should see even more black build up. But as far as I could tell I didnt have much of before the reflash.
And Al, im really not saying anything about your product, more woundering what is up with my situation? I spent $100 the other day to get these air to fuel numbers, only to see how my car is running and where it sets. And from the looks of it, it looks good and "safe" but that dosnt jive with the way my exhaust looks. Which black means it is running rich. This will be ok with me as long as down the road it dosnt mess with my cat., plugs, hot spots in the engine.
Very good question mike.....
As far as I have been told stock is richer,,,,,, my exhaust tip beggs to differ. Now if I go back to stock settings,, I should see even more black build up. But as far as I could tell I didnt have much of before the reflash.
And Al, im really not saying anything about your product, more woundering what is up with my situation? I spent $100 the other day to get these air to fuel numbers, only to see how my car is running and where it sets. And from the looks of it, it looks good and "safe" but that dosnt jive with the way my exhaust looks. Which black means it is running rich. This will be ok with me as long as down the road it dosnt mess with my cat., plugs, hot spots in the engine.
I talked with you on the phone at legnth on the 30th - before you got the wideband test done - told you to send me the results and I would try and lean your car out - thereby giving you free custom tuning even though you only paid for a 92 octane base map
I also offered you a full refund if you were not happy
What else do you want me to do for you ? This is a $200.00 through the mail flash - we are CONSERVATIVE with the tune to make sure NO ONE has any serious problems or detonation issues
Your tune is leaner than stock ALL my flashes take fuel OUT. But - ALL base maps on 91 and 92 octane are still quite rich - WHY - car to car variances - its not SAFE to run a through the mail flash very lean
Finally - your GAS you are using COULD be of poor quality - try switching gas brands and see if that has any effect
PS - WHAT GEAR did you test in? Also - was it flat or up hill? How much time did you allow between pulls?
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Their are different octane maps for the Dynoflash ?
Where I live in NY I only use 93 octane ... is their a mail tune for 93 ?
What is the power (HP) difference between a 91, 92 and 93 octane mail tune ?
Where I live in NY I only use 93 octane ... is their a mail tune for 93 ?
What is the power (HP) difference between a 91, 92 and 93 octane mail tune ?
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Originally posted by Michael A
Their are different octane maps for the Dynoflash ?
Where I live in NY I only use 93 octane ... is their a mail tune for 93 ?
What is the power (HP) difference between a 91, 92 and 93 octane mail tune ?
Their are different octane maps for the Dynoflash ?
Where I live in NY I only use 93 octane ... is their a mail tune for 93 ?
What is the power (HP) difference between a 91, 92 and 93 octane mail tune ?
I have a 91 which is about 10 whp down and a bit richer and less timing and the 92 is in the middle
We do all of them through the mail - and we also match the mods you use with our vast library of base maps on variopus mods
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Al, is their a reason you wouldnt recommend the 93 map for me ? Keep in mind I have 93 octane readily available on LI.
I would do your mail order flash with the Burschr filter and I would also purchase a Burschr Muffler Delete Pipe.
Can you give me an estimate of the HP/Torque gains with these mods and the 93 map ?
I would do your mail order flash with the Burschr filter and I would also purchase a Burschr Muffler Delete Pipe.
Can you give me an estimate of the HP/Torque gains with these mods and the 93 map ?
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Originally posted by Michael A
Al, is their a reason you wouldnt recommend the 93 map for me ? Keep in mind I have 93 octane readily available on LI.
I would do your mail order flash with the Burschr filter and I would also purchase a Burschr Muffler Delete Pipe.
Can you give me an estimate of the HP/Torque gains with these mods and the 93 map ?
Al, is their a reason you wouldnt recommend the 93 map for me ? Keep in mind I have 93 octane readily available on LI.
I would do your mail order flash with the Burschr filter and I would also purchase a Burschr Muffler Delete Pipe.
Can you give me an estimate of the HP/Torque gains with these mods and the 93 map ?
If you want to come to pruven this sat you can get it installed on the spot and save shipping fees
Pm me for details
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Originally posted by Michael A
Al, is their a reason you wouldnt recommend the 93 map for me ? Keep in mind I have 93 octane readily available on LI.
I would do your mail order flash with the Burschr filter and I would also purchase a Burschr Muffler Delete Pipe.
Can you give me an estimate of the HP/Torque gains with these mods and the 93 map ?
Al, is their a reason you wouldnt recommend the 93 map for me ? Keep in mind I have 93 octane readily available on LI.
I would do your mail order flash with the Burschr filter and I would also purchase a Burschr Muffler Delete Pipe.
Can you give me an estimate of the HP/Torque gains with these mods and the 93 map ?
I went to Pruven to get the flash back in October. With the Buschur Delete pipe and AEM intake, I produced 265whp with the reflash
Thats 265whp with less boost due to the Delete pipe