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Old Sep 2, 2011, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by n2oiroc
good point. what kind of power are you expecting?
Should make 650whp with ease, target boost is around 40psi. I wouldnt be surprised if it made closer to 7.
Old Sep 2, 2011, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by metalsaber
yeah so probably save around 400-500ish. While nice to save money, if 500 is going to blow your budget (not you rock) on a full engine build, I'm not sure what to say. haha

To me the only real reason to go 2.4L is that you can get a block this very instant over waiting to find a 4G63 block.
lot more reasons then that and you can get a 4g63 block instantly they are always for sale in the forms on top of that you forget the junk you pull off you can SELL and recoup funds to pay for your pistons or rods etc. I sold my shorty for 1300 and used that money to get manley TT rods all the little parts gaskets powdercoating etc. that did not come out my pocket so your saving more money and end up making alittle more power and of course alittle more spool up. cant really beat the 2.4 man. get the ams headgasket and the stronger arp headstuds(not the 80 ones) and you will be good.
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I REV my 2.4 LR to 8500 all day everyday on a hta86 1.06 a/r t4 setup and the car MOVES
Old Sep 2, 2011, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sktng22
Does anyone even really go 2.3's anymore? cause i was thinking about building a 2.3 next
I built my 2.3 last year. So far i've put about 11,000 miles on it, sitting at 500whp 455torque, rev limiter set to 8200, and i've hit 8k plenty of times, and runs strong.

Can't say much for the 2.0 and 2.4, but seems like others have it covered as the 2.0 is a nice high reving drag build
Old Sep 2, 2011, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ta ace
I REV my 2.4 LR to 8500 all day everyday on a hta86 1.06 a/r t4 setup and the car MOVES
what kind of head gasket do you hAVE ? and how many miles in your engine ?
My 2.4 is building with simple Cometic Head Gasket / DSM / 87mm Bore / .051".

If it is not working maybe with Ams 2.4 or O-rings.
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Originally Posted by VGergo
what kind of head gasket do you hAVE ? and how many miles in your engine ?
My 2.4 is building with simple Cometic Head Gasket / DSM / 87mm Bore / .051".

If it is not working maybe with Ams 2.4 or O-rings.
get the ams 2.4 headgasket and save yourself a headache
Old Sep 2, 2011, 02:56 PM
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AMS no longer sells the headgasket by itself i called and asked when i was looking for a headgasket....English Racing has solved the 2.4 headgasket issue they make a special one made just for the 2.4
Old Sep 2, 2011, 03:04 PM
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I'm going with Power Enterprise HG on my 2.4.

http://www.maperformance.com/power-e...001-gm223.html
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Originally Posted by David Buschur
There is no better engine for an EVO than a 2.3, unless you are building a car for drag use only. The new 2.3RPM engine we build is simply fantastic.
I love my BR2.3, power comes on fast and car feels like its never gonna stop pulling and I would agree that a stroker is way better for DD purpose.
Old Sep 2, 2011, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by L@Ncer06
AMS no longer sells the headgasket by itself i called and asked when i was looking for a headgasket....English Racing has solved the 2.4 headgasket issue they make a special one made just for the 2.4
wow you sure about that lol well im glad i got mine awhile ago then
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PE gasket is bad news.
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Bigger displacement is a long-term goal for me, & even though I think I'd make a LITTLE more power with the 2.4, I'm leaning more towards the 2.3...for now...unless someone can provide a big enough arguement showing multiple benefits of going 2.4. Here's mostly why I'm geared more towards keeping it 2.3: Pulling the Evo 4G63 out & installing a non-Evo 4G64 block, in my mind at least, makes the Evo lose a big part of it's soul. It'd be like wanting to increase the displacement in your Integra Type-R motor, & pulling out the B18C5 & installing an H22 Prelude motor...it's just not a Type-R Teg anymore in all its essence! The B18C5 made the Type R legendary, just as the 4G63 did for the Evolution. I just wouldn't feel the same about my car driving it around with a foreign engine in it. Anyone else see it like I do?? IDK, I guess it's not as sacriligeous as dropping in an LS1 motor in or something like that, but still..

Have there been any documentation done as far as power gains the 2.4 offers over the 2.3 with the same mods?
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Originally Posted by WW-GSR
Bigger displacement is a long-term goal for me, & even though I think I'd make a LITTLE more power with the 2.4, I'm leaning more towards the 2.3...for now...unless someone can provide a big enough arguement showing multiple benefits of going 2.4. Here's mostly why I'm geared more towards keeping it 2.3: Pulling the Evo 4G63 out & installing a non-Evo 4G64 block, in my mind at least, makes the Evo lose a big part of it's soul. It'd be like wanting to increase the displacement in your Integra Type-R motor, & pulling out the B18C5 & installing an H22 Prelude motor...it's just not a Type-R Teg anymore in all its essence! The B18C5 made the Type R legendary, just as the 4G63 did for the Evolution. I just wouldn't feel the same about my car driving it around with a foreign engine in it. Anyone else see it like I do?? IDK, I guess it's not as sacriligeous as dropping in an LS1 motor in or something like that, but still..

Have there been any documentation done as far as power gains the 2.4 offers over the 2.3 with the same mods?
Lots of documentation on the forums about the power output of the various options, but it really comes down to what you have already and what your target goals are. If you already have a clean 4g63 block most people would recommend doing a 2.3L with the block you have. The 2.3L is a proven solid choice.

If you don't have a clean 4g63 block then its a choice between which block you can easily get with all the trimmings. You could contact any one of the major motor builders on this forum for an estimate for all the goodies needed to build a 2.3L or 2.4L with a core fee. What I've heard is the 4g64 builds have a cheaper core, a slightly more favorable rod/stroke ratio, thicker cylinder walls, and obviously a small bump in displacement. The only major negatives I've heard consistently is head gasket sealing problems and arguments about oil squirters.

Personally I am planning to build a 2.3L as long as nothing catastrophic happens to my block. If a rod windows the block I will have to consider the difference in core costs and see what kind of longevity the 4g64 headgaskets are getting before making my choice.
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[quote=Svendiesel;9576483]If and when I do it again Id probably go with with a 2.0 but do a Long Rod version.

Man what is gained by doing the long rod vr say a stroker.?



I have been reading. and i have think the 2.3l is the way to go. And if i want to go faster then 9.90 at some point just build a full blown race motor
Old Sep 3, 2011, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
PE gasket is bad news.
Can you elaborate on this...I have one of these and would like to know if it will meet my needs.


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