2.1L vs 2.4L vs 2.3 Stroker
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here is 1 thread from 3gclub full evo swap with a 64 shortblock.
http://www.club3g.com/forum/rs-gs/50...w-project.html
http://www.club3g.com/forum/rs-gs/50...w-project.html
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There are actually 2 different 2.4 builds and 2 different 2.1 builds. All 4 builds use the 4G64 block. There's the 2.4L build, which is the factory geometry rotating assembly with aftermarket parts. Then there's the 2.4 long rod that uses a 156mm long piston with a "stroker" type piston. This gives you better rod angle, but you do have significantly higher pistons speeds with any stroker build.
Now you have the 2.1L Destrokers. There are 2 builds: The 2.1L Destroker which uses a 94mm stroke aftermarket crank with 156mm long rods and a standard piston. Next is the baddest motor IMO, the 2.1L Long- Rod Destroker, which has a higher rod ratio than a long-rod 2.0L! It uses a 88mm crankshaft, with 162mm rods, and a "stroker" piston to achieve the lowest piston speed, highest rod ratio, and lowest rod angle build available. This motor can rev to 12k rpms.
Now you have the 2.1L Destrokers. There are 2 builds: The 2.1L Destroker which uses a 94mm stroke aftermarket crank with 156mm long rods and a standard piston. Next is the baddest motor IMO, the 2.1L Long- Rod Destroker, which has a higher rod ratio than a long-rod 2.0L! It uses a 88mm crankshaft, with 162mm rods, and a "stroker" piston to achieve the lowest piston speed, highest rod ratio, and lowest rod angle build available. This motor can rev to 12k rpms.
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There are actually 2 different 2.4 builds and 2 different 2.1 builds. All 4 builds use the 4G64 block. There's the 2.4L build, which is the factory geometry rotating assembly with aftermarket parts. Then there's the 2.4 long rod that uses a 156mm long piston with a "stroker" type piston. This gives you better rod angle, but you do have significantly higher pistons speeds with any stroker build.
Now you have the 2.1L Destrokers. There are 2 builds: The 2.1L Destroker which uses a 94mm stroke aftermarket crank with 156mm long rods and a standard piston. Next is the baddest motor IMO, the 2.1L Long- Rod Destroker, which has a higher rod ratio than a long-rod 2.0L! It uses a 88mm crankshaft, with 162mm rods, and a "stroker" piston to achieve the lowest piston speed, highest rod ratio, and lowest rod angle build available. This motor can rev to 12k rpms.
Now you have the 2.1L Destrokers. There are 2 builds: The 2.1L Destroker which uses a 94mm stroke aftermarket crank with 156mm long rods and a standard piston. Next is the baddest motor IMO, the 2.1L Long- Rod Destroker, which has a higher rod ratio than a long-rod 2.0L! It uses a 88mm crankshaft, with 162mm rods, and a "stroker" piston to achieve the lowest piston speed, highest rod ratio, and lowest rod angle build available. This motor can rev to 12k rpms.
i have my eyes on this 2.1LR version...do you reckon this would be most suitable for a full time drag car? once i know which setup to start of my build with. my goal is to have a 9-10 secs car. Need an engine setup between 2.0,2.1,2.2,2.3,2.4 on which could cross the finish line the fastest given all modded with forged internals.
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i have my eyes on this 2.1LR version...do you reckon this would be most suitable for a full time drag car? once i know which setup to start of my build with. my goal is to have a 9-10 secs car. Need an engine setup between 2.0,2.1,2.2,2.3,2.4 on which could cross the finish line the fastest given all modded with forged internals.
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Hey John this is Brian What about the Power enterprise Head gasket is bad news? I have no opinion on it except I bought one to replace mine on my new build. I just want to make sure it is going to do as prescribed before I install it on my engine. I did some searching and found no bad stories or experiences with this head gasket, but I understand you and David have a lot more build time. Thanks for any help
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hehe thought so...i'd say the 'super long rod' build shud be built using 4g64 block right? for 4g64 block, i read that the pulley needs to be adjusted to get the 0 marking. do we do this even wen we use the 4g64 timing belt? on which pulley do we need to adjust it and to how many degrees? please help as i'll be building this motor myself..
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Hey John this is Brian What about the Power enterprise Head gasket is bad news? I have no opinion on it except I bought one to replace mine on my new build. I just want to make sure it is going to do as prescribed before I install it on my engine. I did some searching and found no bad stories or experiences with this head gasket, but I understand you and David have a lot more build time. Thanks for any help
#1 - expensive, $230 for a gasket that will fail sucks
#2 - cometic is $100ish
#3 - Constantly backordered when I needed them and/or hard to track down
#4 - All 3 we tried failed. When they failed they also sucked the stopper ring into the bore and ground it up between the piston and cylinder wall. Not just losing a headgasket which is bad enough (and irritating) but in one case lost a motor because it put a deep enough groove in the cylinder wall it was a smoker.
Bad news.
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