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Old Sep 5, 2011, 09:43 AM
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Car bellowing smoke, cooolant on top of pistons, running out of ideas..

OK New Build on a diff car ..

car runs good no miss just SMOKES BAD
car smokes like a train.... pull spark plugs can see liquid on top of pistons...

did a compression test all cyl... 150

thinking the NEW COMETIC head gasket had a flaw we tear the head off... nothing visually wrong

so we noticed when we pulled the turbo off that 2 exhaust ports on the head were coated in fluid (coolant) as well as the turbo and the exhaust is spitting it out when running..

no visual issue w/ HG so we put a new HG on and now we still have the same issue...

could the head be cracked? is there something stupid?

intercooler piping is dry
intake is a little nasty but not horrible

how do we determine where the leak is?

thanks in advance
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Head gasket.Use stock gasket.
Old Sep 5, 2011, 10:19 AM
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You can do a leakdown test and see if something is leaking, if that doesnt show where its leaking from there could be a crack in the head.

My guess would be the head gasket just isnt sealing off the coolant jackets good enough though
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Head ported? If it is and it was ported heavy, check the exhaust ports on 1 and 4.
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stock head stock cams ... only the 2 cyl next to the cam gears (1&2?) had coolant in the exhaust ports..

and we thought HG too so se put a all new Cometic HG on and torqued down to 100 ft lbs

wouldnt think the head would need torqed down any more?

i dont see how the head could magically crack just sitting on the bench for a week?

its gotta be something stupid
Old Sep 5, 2011, 02:30 PM
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The Cometic head gasket could be a problem, I used a couple in my Honda's a few years back and they would leak. Thats why most people just stick to stock
Old Sep 5, 2011, 03:38 PM
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I'd bet the Cometic gasket based on what you've said so far.
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http://jdm-insider.com/Blogs/Eric/wp...10/gaskets.jpg

There's a picture comparing Cometic vs OEM vs Cosworth.
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Do a coolant system pressure test. When you get the system up to operating pressure leaks will show up the pressure will drop slowly..depending on size of leak.
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Deck the block
Old Sep 6, 2011, 08:43 AM
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car never overheated.... going to try to get a oem HG here tomorrow to try that... any other ideas
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FWIW, I have a Cometic HG in my car, no problems. It was recommended by English Racing during my engine build.

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If the headgasket has absolutely zero issues, the only possibility is a crack in the head, or your head or block is not flat. Have the shop check for flatness within factory specs.

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Originally Posted by Acree
If the headgasket has absolutely zero issues, the only possibility is a crack in the head, or your head or block is not flat. Have the shop check for flatness within factory specs.

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going to pull turbo kit tonight and do a coolant pressure test and see if we can see anything coming out of those 2 head ports that were drenched...
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block deck was checked when motor was rebuilt... check to be ok

but with stock pistons and rods and a cometic hg ran fine and no smoke 30 miles later spun main bearing.

got a new crank and bc 156mm i beam rods, manley 2.0lr pistons and new cometic hg.. now it runs fine and smokes....


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