When is a bigger fuel rail needed?
#16
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on my stock motor i made 515 on a mustang dyno on 100 octane pump gas with a BR double pumper and 1000 cc injectors. stock rail, FPR, lines.
700 on emerys mustang dyno with my built motor on E85. FIC 2150's, BR double pumper, BR fuel rail, stock FPR, stock lines.
700 on emerys mustang dyno with my built motor on E85. FIC 2150's, BR double pumper, BR fuel rail, stock FPR, stock lines.
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#17
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the purpose of the fuel rail is to provide the same fuel pressure to each injector. a "restrictive" fuel rail causes progressively leaner afrs going from cyl #4 (rich) to #1 (lean). its a nasty issue because wideband afr in the downpipe is an average of all four cylinders, so wideband afr can look great while #1 can be running much leaner than #4.
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#18
Hi,
My cylinder 1 piston cracked and chipped at the side. I am using the FIc 1450. I am using the stock fuel rail. How do I check if the Injectors are faulty or is it because of the fuel rail.
I am using a 6466 turbo.
Thanks
My cylinder 1 piston cracked and chipped at the side. I am using the FIc 1450. I am using the stock fuel rail. How do I check if the Injectors are faulty or is it because of the fuel rail.
I am using a 6466 turbo.
Thanks
#20
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Hey guys,
I want to build up my EVO to a 500 hp daily driver. I am looking at ID 1000 injectors for the upgrade. Anyone think I'm looking in the wrong area? Should I look for different injectors? Also, should I consider upgrading my fuel rail? Or would you guys say
is accurate. Thanks!
I want to build up my EVO to a 500 hp daily driver. I am looking at ID 1000 injectors for the upgrade. Anyone think I'm looking in the wrong area? Should I look for different injectors? Also, should I consider upgrading my fuel rail? Or would you guys say
is accurate. Thanks!
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Hey guys,
I want to build up my EVO to a 500 hp daily driver. I am looking at ID 1000 injectors for the upgrade. Anyone think I'm looking in the wrong area? Should I look for different injectors? Also, should I consider upgrading my fuel rail? Or would you guys say
is accurate. Thanks!
I want to build up my EVO to a 500 hp daily driver. I am looking at ID 1000 injectors for the upgrade. Anyone think I'm looking in the wrong area? Should I look for different injectors? Also, should I consider upgrading my fuel rail? Or would you guys say
is accurate. Thanks!
#23
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Thanks for saying this. I forgot to mention that. I want to make 500hp to the wheels on pump gas. I unfortunately can't conveniently get e85 in my area.
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#24
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Upgrade to a -6 feed line while you are in there. Best bet is Aeroquip pushloc, found here
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AER-FCN0615/
And ditch the filter that the double pumper comes with (I don't like barbs/clamps on high pressure applications. There are clamps that I trust, but a pain to remove when you want to change the filter) and go with this filter
http://www.summitracing.com/search/B.../?autoview=SKU
Rail
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...b6113fbf3c2022
Fuel line to rail adapter
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...b6113fbf3c2022
Stock return line/regulator is fine.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AER-FCN0615/
And ditch the filter that the double pumper comes with (I don't like barbs/clamps on high pressure applications. There are clamps that I trust, but a pain to remove when you want to change the filter) and go with this filter
http://www.summitracing.com/search/B.../?autoview=SKU
Rail
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...b6113fbf3c2022
Fuel line to rail adapter
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...b6113fbf3c2022
Stock return line/regulator is fine.
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#27
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the purpose of the fuel rail is to provide the same fuel pressure to each injector. a "restrictive" fuel rail causes progressively leaner afrs going from cyl #4 (rich) to #1 (lean). its a nasty issue because wideband afr in the downpipe is an average of all four cylinders, so wideband afr can look great while #1 can be running much leaner than #4.
Reading over this thread, I wonder if anyone has considered fuel system pulsation as a reason for weird fueling. The stock rail has a number of features to combat this (rubber feed line, inlet restrictor, flat profile, regulator on the end).
On a related / unrelated note, has anyone experienced boost leaks at injectors #2 & #3 due to the stock rail flexing? I'd replaced the seals and lubed them with Krytox and they still leak there. If I press the rail they quite down. I'm only testing to ~30 lbs.
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Curiously, is there any testing to show this? I get the idea, just wondering at what power level this would be an issue. Reading over this thread, I wonder if anyone has considered fuel system pulsation as a reason for weird fueling. The stock rail has a number of features to combat this (rubber feed line, inlet restrictor, flat profile, regulator on the end). On a related / unrelated note, has anyone experienced boost leaks at injectors #2 & #3 due to the stock rail flexing? I'd replaced the seals and lubed them with Krytox and they still leak there. If I press the rail they quite down. I'm only testing to ~30 lbs.
Also, one reason for switching to a different fuel rail is because the welds on the stock ones have broken in some cases.
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