rico

hi guys,

on the uk evo forum i have see a lot of dyno results, and it appears to me that 400bhp is really the upper limit of the standard turbo.

in fact, i have yet to see results of a std turbo car reach 400bhp. typical results for a car with programmable ecu, exhaust, filter, cams, etc are more around 380bhp.

and these are jap spec evo 6's which probably have more like 300 bhp standard and stock boost pressure of around 1 bar. i think the usa evo 8 has higher std boost and probably lower bhp.

i mention this because i feel like the results i've read here that people claim to have achieved with the standard turbo are too optimistic.

what do you guys think? i'm not trying to stir up any trouble. but i read both this forum and others, and it seems the numbers to the wheels on this forum match flywheel estimated figures of other forums sometimes.



brandon

FelipesEVO8

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no, 400bhp is possible w/ the stock turbo, cause thats only 360-380 to the wheels. There are lots of people who have those numbers, but they have to at least have cams, and head studs, to hold those outputs.

SaitouhHajime

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I hit 367 Horse 380 Torque to the wheels without my NX Ntercooler spray, but on race gas. and I hit 411 Horse, 417 Torque to the wheels with the ntercooler chiller.

FelipesEVO8

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how long does the ntercooler last before you need a refill? I'm thinkin of gettin one, is it worth it ......in your opinion ..SaitouhHajime?

SaitouhHajime

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Well, it does help quite a bit, but it run's out really fast... I think I get like 10 dyno run's or 4-5 actual races out of a full 10 lb nitro bottle. it's worth it for me cause it doesn't really cost a whole lot to fill and i don't use it that often. all in all i would say yes it is worth it.

FelipesEVO8

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do you spray in co2 or nos.

boostedwrx

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Shivs stage 1+ makes 400bhp. At least on 100octane it does..

300whp on his DD dyno = 350 dynojet dyno = 400bhp

SaitouhHajime

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I spray nos because co2 doesn't really help that much. Because no matter how much people say that none of it goes into the intake, trust me it does. we put a shield in front of the intake for one run, and it only mad a 20whp diff instead of the 50-55 that it normally does. so it's like having a 35 shot and a ntercooler chiller.

FelipesEVO8

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too bad nos is illegal, in cali. You think it would still be worth the cost runnin co2.??

SaitouhHajime

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I'm not sure, I think it would be. but I don't have enough hard fact's on it to be positive.

nonmature

do you actually think that we are only losing 10% through our AWD drivetrain???

-non

ItsStockOfficer

Umm, Ntercoolers don't do **** if the car is moving, because NOS does not reach your intake, and if you think you can run a 35 shot with no fuel control, go right the **** ahead. Run a real 35 shot with load on the engine on the freeway and spray it, have fun.