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Old Sep 21, 2012, 12:31 PM
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Anything you can do to make an Aftermarket Turbo Spool Faster?

I have an Evo 8 with a Tomei M7960 Turbo setup, My turbo does not wake up until 4k rpm and starts boosting max boost at around 5.5k. I was looking at the waste gate and it seems stock, its in silver but i dont really know if its the one that came with the M7960 kit or not. Are these turbos laggy when it comes to boosting? is this normal?
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Hard to say exactly without knowing your mods, built motor?, cams?, who tuned it? ...etc...the more info you share with us the better response you will receive.
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Originally Posted by SilverShadow03
Hard to say exactly without knowing your mods, built motor?, cams?, who tuned it? ...etc...the more info you share with us the better response you will receive.
Well i bought car about 2 months ago, i am not so sure about mod details but here i go: Tomei M7960 Turbo, Aftermarket Intercooler, 2 step tune(not sure who tunned it), Cams,Intake, Full Exhaust with downpipe, Cam gears and a dualstage BOV. About 400WHP.
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should be at full boost at 4000-4200. there are about a million things that could the problem.
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Originally Posted by Randal
I have an Evo 8 with a Tomei M7960 Turbo setup, My turbo does not wake up until 4k rpm and starts boosting max boost at around 5.5k. I was looking at the waste gate and it seems stock, its in silver but i dont really know if its the one that came with the M7960 kit or not. Are these turbos laggy when it comes to boosting? is this normal?
Shouldn't theortically a billet wheel spool faster with the same turbine by 300rpm -500rpm. A billet wheel mated to M7960 should do this.
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Why don't you do a boost leak test first just to make sure you don't have any leaks.
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a 35shot of nitrous hooked to a hobbs switch to cutoff at a certain boost works well.
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Originally Posted by mrboost05
Why don't you do a boost leak test first just to make sure you don't have any leaks.
There are plenty of things you can do to increase spool. None of them are really that cheap though.
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Originally Posted by 240Z TwinTurbo
a 35shot of nitrous hooked to a hobbs switch to cutoff at a certain boost works well.

"...works well...", compared to what, 240Ztt ?

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OP: How is boost being controlled on this slow spooling beast of yours anyway? What brand of BOV is on there? Do you feel game for attempting WGA adjustments to increase WG spring pressure(preload)? What cams are installed? Check the setting on the adjustable sprockets. What intake is on there?

What cams are in there? Do you happen to know?Early testing on this turbo revealed that it is very cam profile sensitive. For best spool characteristics smaller grinds are preferred such as S1's, HKS 264's, etc. the bigger cams such as the S2's, most 280's, the Kelford 272's and etc. help topend power production but have a negative impact on spool.


First though do what the others suggest and carry out a boost leak test.

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Originally Posted by sparky
"...works well...", compared to what? Get real.
Uhhh, compared to no nitrous.

Ran that on my Z for several months and you get instant boost. Because you can cut it off at ##psi a bottle last a long time.
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I can see how nitrous injection would be useful in helping spool a high mass/high inertia turbo(s). In much the same way that you describe we used to inject meth early with a tiny jet size on turbo diesel applications when running anything larger than an HX-40 with a 16cm housing activating injection at about 10 PSI. This really improved the rate of spool and got the compressor into its sweet spot earlier. So, I can relate to what you are saying.

I am not really arguing with you. I know it will work. But, I think that maybe the OP would want to leave such an option for last. I would try tinkering with a bunch of other things first before going to chemical injection at relatively low engine speeds(2700-4000 RPM) and low turbo shaft speeds.
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Originally Posted by sparky
OP: How is boost being controlled on this slow spooling beast of yours anyway? What brand of BOV is on there? Do you feel game for attempting WGA adjustments to increase WG spring pressure(preload)? What cams are installed? Check the setting on the adjustable sprockets. What intake is on there?

What cams are in there? Do you happen to know?Early testing on this turbo revealed that it is very cam profile sensitive. For best spool characteristics smaller grinds are preferred such as S1's, HKS 264's, etc. the bigger cams such as the S2's, most 280's, the Kelford 272's and etc. help topend power production but have a negative impact on spool.


First though do what the others suggest and carry out a boost leak test.
I am using a Hallman Manual boost controller. It is safely pushing 29psi. I have no idea what cams it has. Just know it has Tomei, cams, cam gears and valve springs.
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Ive heard about those quick spool valves, a lot of supra guys run them but idk. Seems kinda wierd to me..


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