2nd gear lockout.. is it synchro?
Oct 7, 2012, 10:43 PM
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2nd gear lockout.. is it synchro?
has anyone had or knew someone that had a 2nd gear lockout issue? my trans can't seem to go in no matter if I'm regular cruise driving or WOT shifting or even when car is off.. can't seem to get it in at all.. fluid was changed maybe 2 months ago using redline cocktail. no grinding or pop outs.. YET! All other gears are fine as well... any ideas.. ppl are telling me maybe a bent shift fork, but not sure
Oct 8, 2012, 04:50 AM
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I'm by no means an expert on Mitsu trannys. I have a lot more experience with Honda's and Ford's manuals. But most of the basics are the same. If its anything like an Si's tranny, first and second should be on the same shaft separate from the other gears(except reverse). They will be controlled by the same shift fork. So if it was bent, you should have noticable trouble getting into first as well. I would lean more towards a possible hub issue, maybe gear or synchro. Would be difficult to tell without taking the trans apart. Have you rechecked the fluid since this has happened, any metal? All of your linkage move freely if you disconnect from the trans? Just a few things I would check, but to me it sounds like it might be internal. Good luck man.
Oct 8, 2012, 10:43 AM
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I'm by no means an expert on Mitsu trannys. I have a lot more experience with Honda's and Ford's manuals. But most of the basics are the same. If its anything like an Si's tranny, first and second should be on the same shaft separate from the other gears(except reverse). They will be controlled by the same shift fork. So if it was bent, you should have noticable trouble getting into first as well. I would lean more towards a possible hub issue, maybe gear or synchro. Would be difficult to tell without taking the trans apart. Have you rechecked the fluid since this has happened, any metal? All of your linkage move freely if you disconnect from the trans? Just a few things I would check, but to me it sounds like it might be internal. Good luck man.
Oct 8, 2012, 10:55 AM
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I've had that issue before and I can't remember exactly what part was the culprit, but it is definitely something bent or broke inside the trans causing you all your pain and suffering.
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Oct 9, 2012, 04:36 AM
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If you're planning on using OEM parts, find out from your local Mitsu parts guy when they place their parts order. If they order daily and receive daily, great. If not, try to plan your removal and tear down accordingly if you can, so you can minimize down time by getting parts ordered when they place their order. I know the Mitsu place I used to work for ordered once a week. The Honda shop I work for now, orders daily. Something to think about since you want to keep down time low.
Oct 18, 2012, 11:34 AM
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UPDATE:
emailed Shep trans about this and they said:
"HI,
I suspect the 1-2 hub is damaged or the locating lugs on the synchro are worn.
We will only go into a trans and do a full build, being that you have a 2003 I would allow for at least $1500 to properly repair and upgrade it.
John "
has anyone damaged there 1-2 hub before with same symptoms?
emailed Shep trans about this and they said:
"HI,
I suspect the 1-2 hub is damaged or the locating lugs on the synchro are worn.
We will only go into a trans and do a full build, being that you have a 2003 I would allow for at least $1500 to properly repair and upgrade it.
John "
has anyone damaged there 1-2 hub before with same symptoms?
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