evo 8 with COP misfiring in cyl 1-4
#1
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evo 8 with COP misfiring in cyl 1-4
hello evo m.
i recently took my car out for labor day weekend, put about 570 miles on it. car ran great. woke up monday (9am) after getting home, to go out and the car had a really bad misfire. so i parked it for a week, up until today (sun. 9-7-14) the car still started and ran on cylinders 2-3 only. i was running on 1 coil/plug kit, ive ran this set-up for 7 months now and put about 3-4000 miles on i total.
things ive done to try to rid the misfire consist of ( i did it in this order because i couldnt retrieve my volt meter/ scanner ma-jig);
swapped back the old 2plugs/ coil and re swapping the COP kit back on
checked all the fuses
installed 15amp and 20amp fuses (according to people whos went fr 2 plugs/coil to COP)
today i;
checked the signal voltage for coil pack 1-4. it read 5.99vts KOEO
POWER- was 11.87 KOEO
GROUND(with the lead on the positive side of battery) -11.9
for the plug at cyl 2-3, signal voltage was .05 KOEO
power- 11.89 KOEO
ground- -11.99 KOEO
so i turned my volt meter to the graph and i was getting sinal with the car running, i had power and ground. the problem is. the signal voltage for cyl 1-4, is reading at 7.2 volts, with the car running. the signal voltage reading for cyl 2-3 is only at 2.25 volts withthe car running (both these check were done at IDLE)
ive also tried trading of the coil packs moving from 2-3 to 1-4 still nothing. i tried the spark PLUGS still nothing. plugs are wet from cyl 1-4 everytime i pulled them. positive i have fuel
i was told it was my pcm, that the power transister(s) mightve blown. so im on the hunt for another evo 8 computer to confirm this. or any other ideas please let me know what else i can do to diagnose this problems. thanks all. anything is appreciated.
i recently took my car out for labor day weekend, put about 570 miles on it. car ran great. woke up monday (9am) after getting home, to go out and the car had a really bad misfire. so i parked it for a week, up until today (sun. 9-7-14) the car still started and ran on cylinders 2-3 only. i was running on 1 coil/plug kit, ive ran this set-up for 7 months now and put about 3-4000 miles on i total.
things ive done to try to rid the misfire consist of ( i did it in this order because i couldnt retrieve my volt meter/ scanner ma-jig);
swapped back the old 2plugs/ coil and re swapping the COP kit back on
checked all the fuses
installed 15amp and 20amp fuses (according to people whos went fr 2 plugs/coil to COP)
today i;
checked the signal voltage for coil pack 1-4. it read 5.99vts KOEO
POWER- was 11.87 KOEO
GROUND(with the lead on the positive side of battery) -11.9
for the plug at cyl 2-3, signal voltage was .05 KOEO
power- 11.89 KOEO
ground- -11.99 KOEO
so i turned my volt meter to the graph and i was getting sinal with the car running, i had power and ground. the problem is. the signal voltage for cyl 1-4, is reading at 7.2 volts, with the car running. the signal voltage reading for cyl 2-3 is only at 2.25 volts withthe car running (both these check were done at IDLE)
ive also tried trading of the coil packs moving from 2-3 to 1-4 still nothing. i tried the spark PLUGS still nothing. plugs are wet from cyl 1-4 everytime i pulled them. positive i have fuel
i was told it was my pcm, that the power transister(s) mightve blown. so im on the hunt for another evo 8 computer to confirm this. or any other ideas please let me know what else i can do to diagnose this problems. thanks all. anything is appreciated.
#2
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sounds like the ecu needs a new transistor. You need something faster than a voltmeter to check that but you can eliminate other componets. First switch the coils with 2-3. if the problem persists on 1-4 check the wiring
ground
IGN 12v+
ECU Signal Test the wire for short to any other circuit and continuity to the proper term on the ecu connector
make any necessary repairs
if all is ok suspect ECU
If you need diagrams email me
Geogak@gmail.com
ground
IGN 12v+
ECU Signal Test the wire for short to any other circuit and continuity to the proper term on the ecu connector
make any necessary repairs
if all is ok suspect ECU
If you need diagrams email me
Geogak@gmail.com
#3
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is it possible to replace the transister only or will i need a new ecu?
ive moved the COP coils around also the 2plug/ coil packs. the problems still stays on cyl 1-4
ive moved the COP coils around also the 2plug/ coil packs. the problems still stays on cyl 1-4
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#9
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yes i swapped back the oem coils and still the same i also swapped them around. i also turned my scanner ma-jig to check for a break in the wires, with and without the ecu connected.
#12
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if the issue is present with COP, stock coils, and follows the cylinders and not the ignition coils if you swap them around it's likely an ECU or wiring issue
Start with wiring because it's easy to diagnose continuity and if there's a broken or frayed wire somewhere in the harness
Start with wiring because it's easy to diagnose continuity and if there's a broken or frayed wire somewhere in the harness
#13
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I will try that. I have determined those 2 cylinders by checking Temps while idling at the tubular exhaust header pipes. Temps from 1 thru 4 are 220 510. 515 218 with infrared thermometer. Plugs look different as well.
are you suggesting testing continuity from where to where?
I have just purchased a new Spoolinup COP system as well, as I can tell at least one of the coils has been replaced already. The car is new to me, though I have owned my last Evo for 12 years that I put 188000 miles on it.
thanks for the e esponse.
again, test continuity from where to where?
are you suggesting testing continuity from where to where?
I have just purchased a new Spoolinup COP system as well, as I can tell at least one of the coils has been replaced already. The car is new to me, though I have owned my last Evo for 12 years that I put 188000 miles on it.
thanks for the e esponse.
again, test continuity from where to where?