jnassar89

Hey guys, i have the flame suit on ready for this but i am a newb to this kinda stuff so your help is appreciated.

I am trying to decide between a 2.0 and a 2.3L stroker set up. This car will never see the drag strip and is strictly a Street car that sees 93/e85. Goal is MAX 550whp.

I have the option of doing a Curt Brown 2.0L or a 2.3L with MAP Billet Rods, 100mm Eagle Billet Crank and Weisco Pistons.

Turbo isnt a very common one- STC TR3030R (Hybrid) BB
http://speedtrappconsulting.com/Turb...usings/TR3030R

Cams: s2's or Stroker r2's
Manifold is a Mines Manifold

I have heard issues of Strokers wearing down the Cylinder walls and 2.3L causing issues with the stock trans missions because of the added Torque.

Can you guys give me some guidance and all around knowledge for a street car (Reliable / Longevity/ Fun)

thank you

Abacus

iTrader: (9)

For a fun street car I would absolutely run the bigger crank. There is also the 94mm ,150mm, shelf CP piston option. Best of both worlds and if you wanted to rev it to 9400 or so. The 100mm crank adds alot of response and grunt .
That turbo seems a little small but I'm not totally familiar with it. Have you thought about a PTE 5858 with a .82 housing.
Either cam will be fine, but the s2 has less lift and should idle better.

If you keep the limit (2.3) around 8200 you shouldn't have any issues with wear or sideloading with a properly built engine. The 2.3 has a Rod/stroke ratio of 1.5 , Its going to be limited for rpm/piston speed. Either engine you do, you should get a ATI dampner and have everything balanced. This will be a smoother engine and have better bearing life. Balance shafts will have to be your call. If you keep them use loctite on the hardware.

http://www.jackstransmissions.com/pa...balance-shafts

Torque is easy to manage. Just use the boost controller. Less boost=less torque. The Evo trans is strong and handle 400+lbs all day.

I'm all about a fun reliable street car. I ran my stock engine at 500/400 for over a year before putting in a 2.2. Using good fuel, respecting the limits and it will run a long time.

Here is an old link that explains stroker engines.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/str...basics.461017/

LetsGetThisDone

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I would go with his turbo over the one listed:


http://www.forcedperformance.net/mer...Xona-Universal


If you build a 2.3 or a 2.2, definitely go with R2's. If you build the 2.0, I would stick with S2's.


I would at the very least get the transmission built. Not necessarily for strength, but for the ability to shift it. The stock trans already is pretty meh, then with a built motor revving to 8k or maybe higher, they really don't shift great. You get a properly built trans and you'll be able to throw shifts like its a dog box. TRE is the best option IMO.

jnassar89

TRE is local(ish) about 2 hours away.

i forgot to mention that the car is an EVO 8 5 speed car. I already have the 3030R turbo.

in regards to the Cams- i hear the R2 is very harsh on the drivetrain, but maybe that is in regards running them on a 2.0L

Erik@MIL.SPEC

iTrader: (94)

Question, if that's the turbo you're suggesting, why not just go with an FP Red?

LetsGetThisDone

iTrader: (1)

Cams are not your concern when it comes to "harsh on the drivetrain". WHoever made that comment should be smacked upside the head. What is "harsh on the drivetrain" is how much torque the engine makes. And that is basically dependent on engine displacement and turbo size. Various cams (like S2 vs R2 vs S3) will be within 50wtq of each other. It doesn't matter.


Since the turbo he posted is T3 frame, I ***-u-me-d he already had a T3 turbo kit. And I really feel like a T3 setup is better than the single scroll stock frame stuff.

Erik@MIL.SPEC

iTrader: (94)

Ah, that's a good point. But I was only thinking in terms of twin-scroll lol