Any insight for installing FP Black on Stock Block?

Mods:

Head with kelford 272
1000 inj
Act Clutch
3" Ets iC
Stock bottom
3" straight Exhaust
E85
365WHP
Stock 9 Turbo

 

You might need to upgrade your fuel system especially if you plan to run E85 if you want to maximize the power on that turbo. Do you have an upgraded valvetrain? You might need to upgrade that too if you plan to rev higher than stock.

 

I have fuel syatem already and running E85.
Head was running Kelfords cams with zero tick lifters
But stock valves.

Im running 365 WHP on evo turbo

 

Might need more injector.
Head studs
The spool characteristicz of the black is pretty late so it can keep torque down, can make 500 whp and 400 torque to keep the rods happy.

 

THats what i thought.

Is the Black spools at 4000 to 4500RPM? Or late? Just curious

 

the black with ss housing will spool on a stock 2.0L probably 5k or higher bud. i know the ss green will hit in the 4k region.

 

Later then that,will vary on mhi or single scroll.

I have a single scroll red and s2s.

I see 20 psi by 4900 and 30 psi at around 5000 rpm.
Had it been a twin scroll it would be 3700 rpm.

 

you will need WAY more injector to see any benefit of the Black over even a stock turbo. 1000cc injectors, on e85, are only good for about 350whp unless you get crazy with IDC. Typically, that is. Some people will do more. Keeping in mind I keep things really, really conservative You are always free to push them. 365whp is most likely still a fairly reasonable IDC.

You are going to have a lot more lag than you are used to. A lot. Not a big deal if you just care about peak WHP numbers, though. If that's your goal, then no worries there.
Assuming you have an ACT HDSS (guessing because it's most popular), then you are good up to approx 400wtq. With your stock rods, that should all be fine. If you are into drag racing, you may want to swap in a 6-puck disk.
The turbo will like the cams. A bit less low end, but big power up top.
I think some people are going to a 3.5 or 4" FMIC when hitting 500whp+, but that's just what I read here. Others who know better can chime in. But you may wanna search to be sure.
You say your fuel is taken care of. I assume a double pumper, so good there

Other than that, you are good to go, man. Your tuner will keep your torque within limits of the rods... that may make the car seem to have even more lag, but it'a all in the name of that peak power haha.

Have fun, man. it's a great turbo. I'm a huge fan of MHI turbos!

P.S. all of this is my opinion, as mentioned in my sig.

 

Kaj is on point. That turbo is laggy. Fp red would be my suggestion but i would say get a mhi housing red to keep close to stock spool character and make 500

 

Kaj is on point. That turbo is laggy. Fp red would be my suggestion but i would say get a mhi housing red to keep close to stock spool character and make 500

 

Whoa! This is all info that i need. Thanks for backing me up. Im happy with my 365 Set up for now,
But who doesn't wants to move forward right?
But then again, all inputs are helpful and I appreciate it..
Thanks

 

It's all preference, though. Personally, I would have FAR more fun with 365whp on a IX turbo than 500whp on a black. But that's all centered around the type of driving I do. I never see a drag strip, and I don't do freeway fly-bys. I'd never, ever use 500whp around town. Ever (I like to not get my car out of impound, thank you very much) LOL. I can have fun in my car all before I even hit the speed limit; I just get there quick
I shared an AX day with a guy that had an VIII with a IX turbo and e85. I think it was right around 400whp and a kick in the *** around those cones. My car isn't near that responsive and I was quite jealous.
Not saying "everyone should be like me", just sharing the fun I had, in case that's where you are at as well.

 

what are you doing that you want a black?
I went from a stock ix turbo to the ss green and at first it was way too laggy but i got used to driving it and its a lot better now. I drive the car daily and thats it and it is tons of fun and nothing comes close to keeping up on the street.

 

yeah, definitely. Street traffic light to **** off some V8's! lol.

 

plan is to drive street fun responsive, and hove power in the top end.


buddies FP Black turbo BB, that's why tho.


my mind is set for a Green and full race manifold.