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You can get 100 or 110 octane race gas around here for $5 a gallon. Is having that extra 4 points really worth the hassle of adding lubricants and the handling issues of using Toluene or Xylene?
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Not everyone can easily get 100 octane unleaded. Of course if you can, it is certainly more convenient and isn't much of an issue of economics at $5/gal if you use it infrequently.
However, if it is something that you do intend to use on a frequent basis, your best bet is getting a drum for ~$3/gal and running a 20-30% mixture with 92-93 octane, which should give an overall cost of around $2.25/gal, which is *less than half* the cost of buying 100 octane at $5/gal.
It's really just a matter of what you want and how often you want it.
However, if it is something that you do intend to use on a frequent basis, your best bet is getting a drum for ~$3/gal and running a 20-30% mixture with 92-93 octane, which should give an overall cost of around $2.25/gal, which is *less than half* the cost of buying 100 octane at $5/gal.
It's really just a matter of what you want and how often you want it.
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Originally Posted by naucrx
Just curious, why did you calculate for 13 gallons total? EVO gas tanks are 14 gallons.
Correction... second formula should be for 1 gallon of XYLENE.![Beer](https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/images/smilies/beer05.gif)
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Correction... second formula should be for 1 gallon of XYLENE.
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I generally try not to run out and coast in. My rally skills aren't that developed.
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Originally Posted by Ted B
That works out to $6/gal, which is still pricey. I believe the last price quote I obtained for a 55 gal drum of toluene was about $2.75/gal.
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Originally Posted by jj_008
You can get 100 or 110 octane race gas around here for $5 a gallon. Is having that extra 4 points really worth the hassle of adding lubricants and the handling issues of using Toluene or Xylene?
One other issue is that I get 1 mpg more running higher octane gas.
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It is impossible to get 100 octane gas in Overland Park, KS. I been searching for a year already, still havn't found any. So the best option for me is Xylene. So, I don't mind putting in Xylene every fill up.
What I get from this thread is that Xylene is safe to put in the Evo as long as I didn't put more than 2 gallon into the full gas tank, right? Also, if I put less than 2 gallon, then I won't need to add any lubricant, correct?
What I get from this thread is that Xylene is safe to put in the Evo as long as I didn't put more than 2 gallon into the full gas tank, right? Also, if I put less than 2 gallon, then I won't need to add any lubricant, correct?
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Originally Posted by DRWN KIX
I generally try not to run out and coast in. My rally skills aren't that developed.
Not only that it won't screw up anything if you do it every tank. Also, small deviations from perfect mix don't matter.
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Guys I'm sorry for the confusion in my formulas, i didn't mean "in" i meant "in addition to" so I revised my post with a plus sign (+) so the octane reflects 1 full 14 gallon tank. And yes, minor deviations in the mix aren't going to matter unless you are finely tuning a race mixture, and the margin of error is critical. Hell normal pump gas has a lot of deviations anyway.
Another thing to consider in the Toluene vs. Xylene debate is that Toluene is already in gasoline, whereas Xylene is not. Therefore, additive packages in gasoline are formulated with the presence of Toluene in mind, where they may or may not be affected by Xylene. It's impossible to know what is in each gasoline additive package, so to me Toluene is just that much safer. Then again, they are all petrochemicals...
Another thing to consider in the Toluene vs. Xylene debate is that Toluene is already in gasoline, whereas Xylene is not. Therefore, additive packages in gasoline are formulated with the presence of Toluene in mind, where they may or may not be affected by Xylene. It's impossible to know what is in each gasoline additive package, so to me Toluene is just that much safer. Then again, they are all petrochemicals...
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tranny fluid in the gas tank is fine. just add a cap full or so for every gallon of toulene or xylene.
i do not run it on the street. i run it mostly at the track. i mix 2 gallons of toulene with 3 gallons of 93 to get 101.
i do not run it on the street. i run it mostly at the track. i mix 2 gallons of toulene with 3 gallons of 93 to get 101.
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Another thing to consider in the Toluene vs. Xylene debate is that Toluene is already in gasoline, whereas Xylene is not. Therefore, additive packages in gasoline are formulated with the presence of Toluene in mind, where they may or may not be affected by Xylene. It's impossible to know what is in each gasoline additive package, so to me Toluene is just that much safer. Then again, they are all petrochemicals...
I remember reading somewhere in the Evo forum saying that BP of Euro recommended adding Toulene/Xylene as an octane booster.
I already got a gallon of Xylene sitting in my garage because I can't find Toulene in my area. Still, I didn't put it into my Evo yet, I just want to be sure that it is totally safe for the car and won't cost any major repair later on.
Another thing to consider in the Toluene vs. Xylene debate is that Toluene is already in gasoline, whereas Xylene is not. Therefore, additive packages in gasoline are formulated with the presence of Toluene in mind, where they may or may not be affected by Xylene. It's impossible to know what is in each gasoline additive package, so to me Toluene is just that much safer. Then again, they are all petrochemicals...
I remember reading somewhere in the Evo forum saying that BP of Euro recommended adding Toulene/Xylene as an octane booster.
I already got a gallon of Xylene sitting in my garage because I can't find Toulene in my area. Still, I didn't put it into my Evo yet, I just want to be sure that it is totally safe for the car and won't cost any major repair later on.
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Might help.....
http://evo.jedinite.com/toluene.html
http://evo.jedinite.com/toluene.html
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http://torcoracefuels.com/torco/power/accelerator.htm
This stuff is about the same cost and better
This stuff is about the same cost and better
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.....I would think so. That is what I got from Home Depot for $10/gallon. Does anyone esle in this thread could confirm this.
I just try it out yesterday with 10 gallon of 91 octane gasoline. I notice right away that my Evo doesn't have any knocking sound like it was before. The car also idle and accelerate smoother.
I just try it out yesterday with 10 gallon of 91 octane gasoline. I notice right away that my Evo doesn't have any knocking sound like it was before. The car also idle and accelerate smoother.