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SON OF A BISCUIT!!! Turbo from Forced Performance not as "bolt on" as they say!

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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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SON OF A BISCUIT!!! Turbo from Forced Performance not as "bolt on" as they say!

For any of you planning to purchase the EVO6.5 RS T.M.E Titanium Shaft Turbocharger from Forced Performance it's not ready to go straight on the car. I had called before hand and asked what other hardware I might need and was told that it was ready to go right in, everything I needed came with the turbo.

There were no studs.

I just pulled the old turbo out of the car, and realized that there are two studs that connect it to the manifold, and two that connect it to the O2 housing. This sucks, it's Saturday night and I plan to have it put back together tomorrow. I can get away with putting plain old bolts in three of the four locations, but one of them will require a stud.

Wish me luck finding a metric stud on a Sunday.

Thanks,
Sam
Old Nov 21, 2004 | 02:34 AM
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Call them up and get that extra stud dude!.... if you can...
Old Nov 21, 2004 | 02:50 AM
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thanks for the warning. call them up and ***** at them on monday.
Old Nov 21, 2004 | 05:39 AM
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Autozone carrys metric studs.
Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:09 AM
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technically you could extract those studs, but good luck, their a B*TCH.. You can go to mitsu and order the stud/hardware kit.. the stuff you'll need are the gaskets/O-rings for the oil and coolant lines, O2 housing gasket, Manifold-turbo gasket, stud/bolt set.. I think mitsu actually sells this group of parts together as an install kit for the turbo..
Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:18 AM
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Yes mitsu does sell this kit as a turbo install package, but no telling what they will try to get u for on it.
Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:21 AM
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for anyone else doing this swap, Ill collect part numbers (Unless someone beats me too it )
Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by evoego
Yes mitsu does sell this kit as a turbo install package, but no telling what they will try to get u for on it.
If you have the part # for it, you can punch it into http://www.mitsubishiparts.net/ and see what it comes up as.. They have fairly good pricing for OEM parts and can get things pretty quickly (I got an MR Compressor cover from them very quickly and for a great price)

I plan on getting the "Service kit" for the Turbo which is the O-ring, SnapRing, band clamp, etc. through them so I can assemble another titanium Hybrid MR turbo..
Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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MR323654 Gasket, Exhaust Manifold

MR404547 Gasket, T/C Exhaust

MR299686 Gasket, T/C Exhaust

MR258477 Gasket, T/C Oil Recirc

MN156738 Gasket, T/C Oil Recirc

Cant find the part # for the studs....to many reciepts lol I try to get them later

To defend FP, its our job to get the parts bin ready and research the job at hand.
But I REALLY do feel your frustration EVOSam....if I wasnt on business trips allot, I would have written up something on it.....

Maybe Forced Performance should offer a turbo charger install kit....very handy!
Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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I agree.. This is actually a very easy swap if your prepared with new hardware.. To be completely honest I tend to over-plan things, but I can generally do most jobs in several hours because I keep spare parts and usually get everything I need ahead of time, especially gaskets, bolts, and studs.. I generally try to keep alot of hardware around for these reasons, specifically because I hate recycling hardware for numerous reasons, rusty frozen bolts/studs are just a pain, most of the time after you remove the parts once or twice, the parts are just hacked up or just too cruddy to give you agood torque reading, and in some cases, they might have stretched a little.

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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:43 AM
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Oh, and expect to wear or eat a little coolant and oil as you disassemble things..
Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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You can get the stud off as someone mentioned, it's not that bad, especially on a pretty new car. I've done it to 10 yr old DSM's, that gets a little harder.

Use 2 nuts, thread them on and then jam them on each other by threading them aganst each other, then just use the nut on the inside of the stub to unscrew it, if it slips tighten the nuts more. Also WD-40 is your friend on this job. Good luck
Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:54 AM
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Same exact thing happened to me. However, I posted ALL over this board afterwards to help folks exactly like you. (someone didn't do their homework...)

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=103795

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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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I have been wrenching for a few years now and my arsenal does include a stud extractor. However, these studs do not want to be extracted, the one I argued with the longest eventually snapped.

I did do my homework, and even posted several questions about this specific job on this board, I just didn't see your post. I also PM'ed a couple people and engaged in an email dialog with them prior to the install, no one mentioned this. In the future Smog I'll come to you first.

On the plus side, the cams, cam gears, fuel pump, and turbo extraction have all been a piece of cake. I also need that little oil line gasket, or I'll have to use, gulp, RTV black. The cost of my impatiance and a short week next week. But, that gasket looks a LOT like the EGR pipe hookup on the back of a 1996 vette intake.....guess how I know.

Thanks,
Sam
Old Nov 21, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 2literv8eater
Use 2 nuts, thread them on and then jam them on each other by threading them aganst each other, then just use the nut on the inside of the stub to unscrew it, if it slips tighten the nuts more. Also WD-40 is your friend on this job. Good luck
P.B. Blaster, heat, and a breaker bar. This worked very well for me and I was able to reuse them when I did my eclipse turbo swap.


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