Originally Posted by JDM_EVOVIII

If you read the first post that started this thread, my MBC is set at 18psi, not 19psi like it is from the factory. Please read before you post again, thanks. Also, how does a MBC effect an axle seal? You must work at a DSM dealer......huh? If you must know, every turbo car that I've had or even n/a car that I've had has been modified. I don't care if your EVO is stock or not. In power mods, your see in my sig. that I have a MBC (lower boost than stock set at 18psi) so the car doesn't jerk around from 13psi - 19psi in stock form. Before you start bashing me about my situation, read the whole thread. Beaten or not about this subject, doesn't matter to me. This is my case and this happened to me. How does a passenger rear 1/4 panel effect a leak in the driverside front? Can you answer this. I don't know many people who have modified their rear 1/4 panels, have you?

Originally Posted by beebers

Nope...I'm sure as I said there are many valid claims out there and real warranty issues for cars not modified or raced...and I do think Mitsu should stand behind them.

On that same note I do get tired of reading guys with a signature full of modifications and 1/4-miles times pissing and moaning about how Mitsu sucks because they won't fix my car for free.

The profiling is there I'm sure...but I'm sure they see just as many valid non-modified non-racing claims as they do obvious racing / modification claims.

And if you think any Mitus rep would spend the time out here debating this I think you're crashing off the conspiracy-theory side of the highway.

Originally Posted by junauto

this problem goes both ways. Mitshubishi is currently experiencing a 50% drop in sales in Japan for the past 3 months due to a big recall scandal, for years the auto maker has been covering up difects in many of the cars, trucks and auto parts they sold, think of the hundreds of 1g and 2g engines that had crank walk that was misdiagnosed and cost owners big $$$$ to rebuild engines at the dealers.

In addition, Mitsubishi's U.S finance arm quit providing 0% loans to no down payment and no payment for a year to credit-risky buyers, due to the high rate of repossessions and loan defaults. In an atempt to save the company, some Mitsubishi owners may incounter grey area warranty issues.

Originally Posted by beebers

Actually I read every post, including your starting post. What I said was the fact that you installed an MBC knowing it may void your warranty means you assumed that risk. Regardless of what it's set on when you take it in for service or what part fails. You read the warranty, it says racing or modification MAY void the warranty, you modify it anyway...where's the big surprise that you MAY have warranty issues at the dealer.

Sounds like you're running off the conspiracy-theory side of the highway also if you think I work for a DSM dealer.

There's no bashing here chief. Despite your obvious hostility I've tried to keep this clean and on point. Proving your axel seal case is between you and Mitsu. I'm simply saying that if you choose to risk your warranty by modifying or racing the car (expecially given all the warranty stories posted here) then you assumed that risk. It may work out OR it may cause you to be in a warranty fight with Mitsu trying to prove your MBC didn't cause the problem.

Originally Posted by JDM_EVOVIII

Hmmmmmmm..........you raise an interesting point. How do they test the car? They do run tests like skidpad, 1/4 & 0-60 right? Why can't the owners? So If an EVO owner takes their car to the track and the clutch slips and he runs a 13.3 like the magazine says, is he at fault b/c the clutch slips? It's not that the car has a weak clutch huh? It's the drivers fault?!? That doesn't make any sense. You must work for a dealer. Plus, it shows your a newby, you haven't had time to browse. I'll cut you some slack about that. Again, do a search and then come talk to me.

Originally Posted by JDM_EVOVIII

Yeah, Mitsubishi stands behind their cars, kinda like the 7-bolt 4g63's huh, Beebers? Crank walken like crazy on just about everyone of them. I've replaced about 15-20 myself with 6-bolt's which are hard to find for friends and different people. Don't talk to me about Mitsubishi and they do this and that. Also, nothing is voided with your warranty unless an aftermarket part has altered it in anyway to cause it to fail. If you hydolock your engine with a CAI w/o a bypass valve, that's on your tab. If it hydrolocked b/c water seeped through your vent on your hood, that's on Mitsu. It's common sense. A MBC will not cause an axle seal to leak. bottome line. Especially when it's set at a lower psi. The car doesn't go any faster, unless your talking about a gov. being removed, by flashing, stand-alone, piggy-back ecu...etc. The car says it will go 142mph, the seal should hold to 142mph. Magazine's lie here and there, but we all know the truth about our cars. If you drive an EVO like you say, you can contest to this knowledge. I'm not trying to be an a$$ about this, but you just have to understand what I've been through. that's all............

Originally Posted by beebers

Again with the hostility...

Would it surprise you to know my last car (a 4G63) ran a whopping 93K miles with no crank walk. No one ever said all manufacturers make perfect cars in every model and on every component. You still don't get it. I'm not debating that your MBC caused your problem or that Mitsu should or should not replace it for free. I'm simply saying that if you modify or race your car knowing those activities MAY void your warranty then don't be surprised when you end up in a warranty hassle with Mitsu. It's SO simple.

I feel bad for you and I'm sure it's very frustrating. Sorry you're going through this, especially on a car that is supposed to be fun and NOT a hassle. Either way I hope it works out for you and you can get back to enjoying the car.

Originally Posted by beebers

Actually I read every post, including your starting post. What I said was the fact that you installed an MBC knowing it may void your warranty means you assumed that risk. Regardless of what it's set on when you take it in for service or what part fails. You read the warranty, it says racing or modification MAY void the warranty, you modify it anyway...where's the big surprise that you MAY have warranty issues at the dealer.

Originally Posted by EVOLust

Most owners manuals including the STi and other sports cars have such a warranty clause. As you notice, the clause states MAY void your your warrany. You pointed such out. Isn't the MAY contingent on whether "said modification" caused an issue with with the oem part failure?

Hell, I know a little about cars but, I'm not a mechanic. The dealer's techs should have a pretty good idea on whether or not a modification was the cause.

It just seems to me that a lot of dealerships are using mods as an excuse regardless of whether or not that it is or is not the problem.

Didn't mean to assume that you were a rep but, what you are saying isn't offering any clarity on why so many ds's are denying service. The mods still have to contribute to the cause of the problem.

Originally Posted by Steiner

I think that whole "honesty is the best policy" saying doesn't apply when you bring in a lightly modded car to a dealership for warranty work. Return the car to stock if possible just to be safe. You never know the agenda of the service manager. Sort of ironic that every Mitsu commercial I see on TV ends with "...the best backed cars in the world..."

I think they should add "unless it's an Evo".