It's about time HKS full turbo kit now offered
Dec 3, 2004, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Guys - the deal with HKS is they tune the stuff with stock like settings on 91 octane fuel and those dyno figures are a configuration which is 100% safe and reliable for all operating conditions and envirnments.
Keep in mind the HKS stand alone ecu has no knock control so it must be left on the safe side
Also - HKS is super conservative with their whp rating on parts - I think they shoot for numbers which no one will make less than - to avoid complaints
Its obvious that the kit can make 400 whp on 93 octane and 21 psi
BUT - its also obvious that AMS makes a much better kit for less money
The HKS stuff is good for people who MUST have JDM
I used to be a big HKS fan but now there is NOT ONE HKS part on my car
Keep in mind the HKS stand alone ecu has no knock control so it must be left on the safe side
Also - HKS is super conservative with their whp rating on parts - I think they shoot for numbers which no one will make less than - to avoid complaints
Its obvious that the kit can make 400 whp on 93 octane and 21 psi
BUT - its also obvious that AMS makes a much better kit for less money
The HKS stuff is good for people who MUST have JDM
I used to be a big HKS fan but now there is NOT ONE HKS part on my car
the turbo is rated at 430bhp at 2.0L from HKS. 400whp with cams and supporting mods on pump gas is relistic.
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Dec 28, 2004, 03:32 AM
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if you read closely it says:
"The HKS GT2835 Full Turbo Upgrade Kit and R-Type Intercooler Kit combined with HKS 272° Intake and Exhaust Camshafts, Carbon Ti-Exhaust, 680cc Injectors, Racing Suction Intake, EVC, Racing Catalyzer and tuned with the HKS F-Con VPRO produced 330.4 HP and 285.4lbs Torque with boost set to 1.24Bar (18 PSI). The GT2835’s ball-bearing center-cartridge and 0.73 A/R turbine housing allows boost to build quickly for exceptional response; while the 56 trim compressor wheel offers superb power potential for the Evolution’s 4G63 power plant."
tuned at less than stock boost (19psi), as Al said, its a conservative tune.
"The HKS GT2835 Full Turbo Upgrade Kit and R-Type Intercooler Kit combined with HKS 272° Intake and Exhaust Camshafts, Carbon Ti-Exhaust, 680cc Injectors, Racing Suction Intake, EVC, Racing Catalyzer and tuned with the HKS F-Con VPRO produced 330.4 HP and 285.4lbs Torque with boost set to 1.24Bar (18 PSI). The GT2835’s ball-bearing center-cartridge and 0.73 A/R turbine housing allows boost to build quickly for exceptional response; while the 56 trim compressor wheel offers superb power potential for the Evolution’s 4G63 power plant."
tuned at less than stock boost (19psi), as Al said, its a conservative tune.
Dec 28, 2004, 05:50 AM
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Hks Kit
I hear what everyone is saying and I don't know about you guys/gals but for me my $$$ is hard earned. I would rather go with David Buschur's stuff and have Al tune/flash my evo. With Buschur's staged set up and Al's tuning they make it very hard for companies to compete for the performance verse dollar issue. Plus all of their parts are top quality. I do love the way the HKS stuff looks but way too much $$$ for me I will sacrifice bling factor for good quality performance at a very reasonable price.
Sorry to ramble but thats just my .02 cents
Derek
Sorry to ramble but thats just my .02 cents
Derek
Dec 28, 2004, 07:30 AM
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Let's say it made another 30-40 hp with an aggressive tune. Still why would you when you can get Buschur stage 3 that makes 360atw with standard turbo. And i'm guessing you'd sacrifice some low response with HKS kit.
Dec 28, 2004, 07:52 AM
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The GT28 turbo is a great turbo especially for our little engines. It has great response even better than stock. It will spool better than stock with all supporting mods (I would say full boost by 2700~2800RPM) and it will hold power more than stock. I can say 25~30WHP on top of stock. Its a great track turbo (not QM track) and nothing will beat it. No member here has the GT28 on their EVOS because we always look for 350WHP and above but I am sure that the GT28 will make one fun car to drive.
Dec 28, 2004, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by NOVA EVO
Yeah, really...WTF??? 
I am sure he has something bigger now. I mean he cant push the 600WHP on that small intake. I am sure he has something custom made for him. The HKS RS is good for us 350~ whp. However, anything over the 500WHP needs to be custom made.
Dec 28, 2004, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MiSTER2
Are you sure it can spool faster than stock turbo (considering both have same supporting mods)?
well, I am %99.5 sure.
No one has tried yet but I am sure it will spool so much faster. I have seen the GT28 on the 1.8GTIs and it does spool extremely fast on these cars..
Dec 28, 2004, 09:10 AM
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did anyone else notice that the kit that uses the STOCK fmic is actually MORE EXPENSIVE than the kit that comes with the HKS fmic??
11003-XM001 GT2835 Full Turbo Upgrade Kit (For Factory Intercooler) $6295.00
11003-XM002 GT2835 Full Turbo Upgrade Kit (For HKS R-Type Intercooler Kit) $6250.00
11003-XM001 GT2835 Full Turbo Upgrade Kit (For Factory Intercooler) $6295.00
11003-XM002 GT2835 Full Turbo Upgrade Kit (For HKS R-Type Intercooler Kit) $6250.00
Dec 28, 2004, 09:16 AM
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That turbo is pretty small. It's ballbearing, but still...
But that R-Type Intercooler is delicious.
The goat horn type exhaust manifold is nice too, the buschur's and that's fairely similar.
I'm sure the MSRP's going to go way down in a while, if people don't start buying them.
But that R-Type Intercooler is delicious.
The goat horn type exhaust manifold is nice too, the buschur's and that's fairely similar.
I'm sure the MSRP's going to go way down in a while, if people don't start buying them.
Dec 28, 2004, 10:18 AM
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[QUOTE=bo0oost]Didn't you swear up and down that the HKS Intake was the ****?QUOTE]
If I remember correctly he very much did swear up/down on the HKS intake which he later blammed for everything. Funny.
Moving on...
I'm sure you can choose a different turbo as well with the HKS kit but it still is a extreme amount for the cost. They really need to review their marketing tactics.
bryan
If I remember correctly he very much did swear up/down on the HKS intake which he later blammed for everything. Funny.
Moving on...
I'm sure you can choose a different turbo as well with the HKS kit but it still is a extreme amount for the cost. They really need to review their marketing tactics.
bryan
Dec 28, 2004, 11:11 AM
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did anyone else notice that the kit that uses the STOCK fmic is actually MORE EXPENSIVE than the kit that comes with the HKS fmic??