Is there a JDM EVO GSR badge?
Dec 12, 2004, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOVII_SWE
Ehhh, what did I assume??? And what on earth made you think I was offended by the topic? I also clearly stated my post to be slightly OT but obviously I would have needed to be more precise. I have seen at several occasions on this board US EVO8’s to be regarded as GSR’s and that’s what I was asking about? I know there is some confusion about the spec of different EVO models but I’ve never seen any confusion about the GSR until now. And I never said anything about you having a JDM GSR EVO VIII but your name “JDM EVO VIII” makes me wonder a bit what kind of EVO you actually have? Then, putting emblems on a car showing something more than it really is makes me think of an expression we have in Sweden and that is “emblem tuning” like when somebody with a N/A engine puts a Turbo sticker on the back of his car or a BMW 316 with a 330 badge.
There have really been only three official EVO model designations, GSR, RS and RS2. The MR is more like an EVO 8,5 much like the TME was often referred to as a 6,5. The GSR has automatic A/C with an LCD display and was only sold in the Japanese market as the luxury street version. A pure RS would never have had A/C and when the first LHD EVO6 came intended for street use it was actually based on a LHD RS but equipped with some comfort extras like manual A/C, power windows central locking etc. but it had no ABS brakes, no AYC and not even Recaro seats, I know because I had one of them back in 99-00 and it was called an RS2. With the LHD 7 and 8 the RS2 became much more like the GSR with Recaros, AYC/ACD and ABS brakes but still without automatic A/C and still they carried the name RS2. Finally the GSR has never been produced as LHD so the US EVO8 could never be a GSR.
There have really been only three official EVO model designations, GSR, RS and RS2. The MR is more like an EVO 8,5 much like the TME was often referred to as a 6,5. The GSR has automatic A/C with an LCD display and was only sold in the Japanese market as the luxury street version. A pure RS would never have had A/C and when the first LHD EVO6 came intended for street use it was actually based on a LHD RS but equipped with some comfort extras like manual A/C, power windows central locking etc. but it had no ABS brakes, no AYC and not even Recaro seats, I know because I had one of them back in 99-00 and it was called an RS2. With the LHD 7 and 8 the RS2 became much more like the GSR with Recaros, AYC/ACD and ABS brakes but still without automatic A/C and still they carried the name RS2. Finally the GSR has never been produced as LHD so the US EVO8 could never be a GSR.
Dec 13, 2004, 01:57 AM
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You still don’t get it do you? I NEVER commented on your question regarding the badge it self to start with. I asked why you US guys think that you have GSR’s and said that it was a bit off topic and you suddenly reacted like I was attacking you in some way? But lets just forget all about this because I don’t seam to be able to get through to you what ever I write.
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Dec 13, 2004, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by x7eVoLuTiOn7x
Just curious....you said there was no evo7 gsr? So I've got an RS2? whats the difference? 
Of course there are no rules without exceptions, a guy here in Sweden has an EVO6 which were imported from the middle east. If you look at the chassis number it should be an RS but it has automatic AC and it seam to have come that way from the factory. A very rare bird indeed and so far he has not been able to find out how it came to be the way it is.
Dec 14, 2004, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOVII_SWE
There has never been LHD GSR's. Basically the difference between a GSR and an RS2 has become less and less since the EVO6 and the main thing now, except that the steering wheel is on the right side in a GSR, is that the GSR comes with automatic AC with an LCD display. I don’t know if you have LHD (i.e. you drive on the right side of the road) traffic in the Philippines?
Of course there are no rules without exceptions, a guy here in Sweden has an EVO6 which were imported from the middle east. If you look at the chassis number it should be an RS but it has automatic AC and it seam to have come that way from the factory. A very rare bird indeed and so far he has not been able to find out how it came to be the way it is.
Of course there are no rules without exceptions, a guy here in Sweden has an EVO6 which were imported from the middle east. If you look at the chassis number it should be an RS but it has automatic AC and it seam to have come that way from the factory. A very rare bird indeed and so far he has not been able to find out how it came to be the way it is.
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etc., etc., etc. I'm not sure if your in the US or over in Sweden, but not sure if you were aware of this here. I have a press release that describes the USDM EVOLUTION VIII as the GSR. I was just wondering if there was a badge that says GSR on it that complies with the EVO. Don't be so defensive about this. My car runs low 13's to really high 12's right now, I don't think anyone cares about my car having a GSR badge or not. Apparently, everyone on here in the US has been claiming their USDM EVO VIII's as GSR's for short.
Dec 14, 2004, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOVII_SWE
Ehhh, what did I assume??? And what on earth made you think I was offended by the topic? I also clearly stated my post to be slightly OT but obviously I would have needed to be more precise. I have seen at several occasions on this board US EVO8’s to be regarded as GSR’s and that’s what I was asking about? I know there is some confusion about the spec of different EVO models but I’ve never seen any confusion about the GSR until now. And I never said anything about you having a JDM GSR EVO VIII but your name “JDM EVO VIII” makes me wonder a bit what kind of EVO you actually have? Then, putting emblems on a car showing something more than it really is makes me think of an expression we have in Sweden and that is “emblem tuning” like when somebody with a N/A engine puts a Turbo sticker on the back of his car or a BMW 316 with a 330 badge.
There have really been only three official EVO model designations, GSR, RS and RS2. The MR is more like an EVO 8,5 much like the TME was often referred to as a 6,5. The GSR has automatic A/C with an LCD display and was only sold in the Japanese market as the luxury street version. A pure RS would never have had A/C and when the first LHD EVO6 came intended for street use it was actually based on a LHD RS but equipped with some comfort extras like manual A/C, power windows central locking etc. but it had no ABS brakes, no AYC and not even Recaro seats, I know because I had one of them back in 99-00 and it was called an RS2. With the LHD 7 and 8 the RS2 became much more like the GSR with Recaros, AYC/ACD and ABS brakes but still without automatic A/C and still they carried the name RS2. Finally the GSR has never been produced as LHD so the US EVO8 could never be a GSR.
There have really been only three official EVO model designations, GSR, RS and RS2. The MR is more like an EVO 8,5 much like the TME was often referred to as a 6,5. The GSR has automatic A/C with an LCD display and was only sold in the Japanese market as the luxury street version. A pure RS would never have had A/C and when the first LHD EVO6 came intended for street use it was actually based on a LHD RS but equipped with some comfort extras like manual A/C, power windows central locking etc. but it had no ABS brakes, no AYC and not even Recaro seats, I know because I had one of them back in 99-00 and it was called an RS2. With the LHD 7 and 8 the RS2 became much more like the GSR with Recaros, AYC/ACD and ABS brakes but still without automatic A/C and still they carried the name RS2. Finally the GSR has never been produced as LHD so the US EVO8 could never be a GSR.
Anyway...it has been WELL-KNOWN that most JDM auto maker like to add or delete some options from the orginial JDM model when they bring it to oversea, especially in USA, we usually get LESS from them. ex: no AYC in all model here. so.....can you say our Evo is not an true EVO because we don't have AYC in it?
I guess "GSR" is somewhat sound better than "regular EVO", so that's why we all use "gsr" for those non-RS and non-MR model here in USA
btw.....if ppl called Evo 6 TME as EVO 6.5, will they also called Evo 8 MR as
EVO 8.5??
Dec 15, 2004, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by WhosEVO
Thanks for the great info on the details.....
Anyway...it has been WELL-KNOWN that most JDM auto maker like to add or delete some options from the orginial JDM model when they bring it to oversea, especially in USA, we usually get LESS from them. ex: no AYC in all model here. so.....can you say our Evo is not an true EVO because we don't have AYC in it?
I guess "GSR" is somewhat sound better than "regular EVO", so that's why we all use "gsr" for those non-RS and non-MR model here in USA
btw.....if ppl called Evo 6 TME as EVO 6.5, will they also called Evo 8 MR as
EVO 8.5??
Anyway...it has been WELL-KNOWN that most JDM auto maker like to add or delete some options from the orginial JDM model when they bring it to oversea, especially in USA, we usually get LESS from them. ex: no AYC in all model here. so.....can you say our Evo is not an true EVO because we don't have AYC in it?
I guess "GSR" is somewhat sound better than "regular EVO", so that's why we all use "gsr" for those non-RS and non-MR model here in USA
btw.....if ppl called Evo 6 TME as EVO 6.5, will they also called Evo 8 MR as
EVO 8.5??
It might be that it’s easier to say GSR but since the GSR is such a specific and in some ways a very special EVO version it could get confusing when you regard your USDM VIII as a GSR especially if you’re not form the US.
When it comes to the TME vs. 6,5 and MR vs. 8,5 designations the 6,5 and 8,5 are not official mitsu names. As they are based on the regular 6 and 8 but still a kind of evolution people just said 6,5 and 8,5. I don’t know why mitsu didn’t named them EVO7 and so on from the start, maybe they didn’t think they were different enough to justify that?
Dec 15, 2004, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbkkt1
if we are going into semantics, then isn't an evo8 really an evo7.5?
Dec 15, 2004, 07:50 AM
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my car is LHD, dont have auto AC just regular AC. The car did not come w/ a headunit or speakers. Is this an RS2? Is there a way to find out w/c country it came from? I know its made in japan but just wanna know w/c country it was shipped to 1st. All evo 7's here were from grey market. Mitsu dealers did not sell them here.
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Originally Posted by x7eVoLuTiOn7x
my car is LHD, dont have auto AC just regular AC. The car did not come w/ a headunit or speakers. Is this an RS2? Is there a way to find out w/c country it came from? I know its made in japan but just wanna know w/c country it was shipped to 1st. All evo 7's here were from grey market. Mitsu dealers did not sell them here.
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Originally Posted by EVOVII_SWE
There has never been LHD GSR's. Basically the difference between a GSR and an RS2 has become less and less since the EVO6 and the main thing now, except that the steering wheel is on the right side in a GSR, is that the GSR comes with automatic AC with an LCD display. I don’t know if you have LHD (i.e. you drive on the right side of the road) traffic in the Philippines?
Of course there are no rules without exceptions, a guy here in Sweden has an EVO6 which were imported from the middle east. If you look at the chassis number it should be an RS but it has automatic AC and it seam to have come that way from the factory. A very rare bird indeed and so far he has not been able to find out how it came to be the way it is.
Of course there are no rules without exceptions, a guy here in Sweden has an EVO6 which were imported from the middle east. If you look at the chassis number it should be an RS but it has automatic AC and it seam to have come that way from the factory. A very rare bird indeed and so far he has not been able to find out how it came to be the way it is.
Dec 16, 2004, 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by x7eVoLuTiOn7x
my car is LHD, dont have auto AC just regular AC. The car did not come w/ a headunit or speakers. Is this an RS2? Is there a way to find out w/c country it came from? I know its made in japan but just wanna know w/c country it was shipped to 1st. All evo 7's here were from grey market. Mitsu dealers did not sell them here.
Sorry, I don't know how to check the origin of your car.
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Originally Posted by EVOVII_SWE
The GSR has automatic A/C with an LCD display and was only sold in the Japanese market as the luxury street version.
by your details, then the US doesnt have ANY "real" type of evo at all. as you said before, the RS shouldnt come with A/C, but it does in the states, BUT its still sold as an RS. but i guess we dont really have an RS by your standards. along with the MR. we dont have the S-AYC, head and tail lights, etc etc. but its still called the MR. but i guess its not a real MR either just like our "standard" and RS. who the hell cares??
its just a frickin name for God's sake. plus i think the reason people got offended was because of the way you portrayed your post and the way people took it, thats all.
Originally Posted by EVOVII_SWE
A bit off topic but not entirely. Just out of curiosity, what makes you guys think you have GSR’s over there? As far as I know the GSR have never been sold outside Japan. All GSR comes with automatic A/C and has never been manufactured as LHD vehicles. Of course there are grey imports in RHD countries like the UK, New Zealand, Australia and a few other.
he was asking about a GSR badge, not the definition of a GSR
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