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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chantaiman51
I am sure this has been mentioned before, but just wondering why heel and toe is neccessary on an Evo. Some European cars like Porsche, Ferrari, Mercedes, BMW have the gas pedal coming up from the floor and has brake pedal higher up than the gas pedal . So, heel and toe is a must.

But the EVO's gas pedal is right next to the brake pedal and at the same level. I wear size 9 shoes and I found it difficult/impossible to do heel and toe with my stock pedal, and i use the ball of my foot for the brake and the side of my foot for the gas. And it works perfect.
"heel & toe" is just an expression. Use whetever part of your foot that enables you to get the job done. As long as you are able to rev match and not botch the shift, all is OK
Old Jan 4, 2005 | 11:48 PM
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I don't know about everyone else, but my heel has almost no pedal feel. Also, twisting my foot to put my actual heel on the gas pedal wrecks my pedal feel and makes me feel like my foot is going to slip off the brake pedal. I simply roll my foot to the right while braking for heel-toe blipping, and the gas pedal was too far to the right for my foot to hit it while wearing the skinny Adiddas shoes I use for fun driving. The Razo pedal extender did the trick, although if anyone drives your car like mechanics and such, make sure you tell them about it. I've had a couple people step on the brakes and rev the engine sky high with stupid looks on their faces because they were pressing on both pedals at the same time.
Old Jan 4, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dsmythe2
"heel & toe" is just an expression. Use whetever part of your foot that enables you to get the job done. As long as you are able to rev match and not botch the shift, all is OK
Yes, I know that.

I was just saying some cars must need to do heel and toe to brake and revmatch on downshift.

Some cars like our Evo is much better done with ball and side of the foot which I find it much more initutive and easier than the traditional heel n toe method.

Some cars like the VW corrado and Merkur XR4ti have such a stupid pedal arrangement that nothing would work. The gas pedal are tiny and sit way behind the brake pedal. I have a friend who tried to install some longer aftermarket gas pedal to do heel and toe but he can no longer go WOT because the bottom of the gas pedal would hit the carpet preventing him from fully depressing the gas pedal. So he has to sacrifice one or the other.
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeeGermans
I did try this, and found that it slipped too easily, regardless of what shoes I had on. Maybe some new pedals with nice little spiked holes are in order.
BTW Zee, have you check the Ralliart pedals? My stock Mitsu sports pedals set is pretty slippery when my shoes are wet. So I was think of getting these pedals, and maybe you can buy them and do testing for me.

Old Jan 5, 2005 | 03:09 AM
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I have a set of Momo pedals that work great. I too did not like the stock placement. These made rev-matching much easier for me.
http://www.cardomain.com/item/MOMCH1111
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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For me, I think the ball/side of foot is better. You can just plant your heel on the floorboard and pivot from the throttle to the break without lifting your leg and then tap the throttle as needed. The motion is more compact and consistent than lifting your heel up and rotating to hit the throttle.
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