Sport Compact Car Magazine Feedback
Jan 10, 2005 | 01:24 PM
#31
Originally Posted by scc4evos
1) What would make you buy SCC every month?
2) What does SCC do that you don't like?
3) How are we unique to our competitors?
4) Would you recommend us to a friend?
5) How likely are you to subscribe?
6) How are we delivering on the Lancer Evolution?
7) What would you like to see on that particular model?
2) What does SCC do that you don't like?
3) How are we unique to our competitors?
4) Would you recommend us to a friend?
5) How likely are you to subscribe?
6) How are we delivering on the Lancer Evolution?
7) What would you like to see on that particular model?
2) can't think of anything right now
3) I like you guys' writing style, it cracks me up. It's nice to read an article by a person that comes across as genuinely enthusiastic about what they are writing, but also technically knowledgable. When I read the stuff you put out, I feel that you guys "get it". The article you did on the test drive of the F1 car is a good example, I was able to enjoy that as much as possible without actually doing it myself.
4) Yes
5) I did
6) Pretty darn well - the many articles you had on the car played a big role in getting me interested in the car and ending up buyng one.
7) The Evo is a very technical car, and while it responds well to many bolt-on mods, it takes some good technical knowledge to get even more performance out of an already very capable car. SCC should aim to be the source of that level of technical detail. Does a grounding system really help? How much? Which one? Is the stock intake a power limiter or not? Does a 3" exhaust help significantly, or is anything over 2.5" barely noticeable? How to install a harness, do I need a bar, can it go to the back seat, is it DOT legal? Show me data so I can form my own opinion - don't just give me your opinion (although I do want to read that too).
other general suggestions:
As a magazine with a significant readership, you have more clout than we owners do individually. I would like to see you help "the little guy" - like providing backup for a guy getting screwed on warranty service, and then do an article on that - be a "tuner community" voice. Help us lobby companies to get JDM quality parts on our USDM vehicles, rather than the watered down crap (e.g. the JDM MR has a high quality metal BOV, the USDM is plastic).
Lastly, all of us don't just wrench our cars, we drive them too - how about some good articles on driving technique? Weight transfer, line selection, e-brake use, launching, trail-braking, etc. How about a series with a review of all the road coarses in the US?
Just some random ideas....
Jan 10, 2005 | 02:21 PM
#32
1. I buy SCC every month the way it is. But, ideally, I'd like to see issues that are jam packed with product comparisons, project car developments, tech articles, platform specific tuner challenges, prices for parts you use on your project cars, and in-depth analysis of actually tuning a car, whether it's suspension tuning or engine tuning.
Some of my favorite SCC articles are the FWD vs. RWD vs. AWD article, the USCC, the article about how a limited slip differential works where force vectors are described, and the first two parts of project 240sx (after that it got WAY to personal and less about the car). Thats the stuff that sells SCC, not burnout of the month, wheel selection guides (total waste of huge space), and coverage of local socal events (boring).
2. the sections that I'd like to see eliminated with are rado's article, reader rides, and marketplace. I understand that reader's rides is needed to keep the sponsors and the masses at ease, but it just grates on me that those sometimes tasteless cars get space in the mag. It's got to be a joke for you guys too sometimes considering that every few months, a car that could be fresh from the 'pimp my ride' set seems to slip through.
I also don't like that issues are thin and yet your subscriptions are pricey.
3. What distinguishes SCC is the appreciation of how mods truly benefit cars. Whether its for drift, drag, or road racing, parts are qualified based on total benefits while not skimping on drawbacks. I sense an appreciation for multiple dimensions of auto racing that most other magazines don't have. In that sense, SCC has more opportunities to readers with varied interests than a one-dimensional competitor that focuses on show cars or drag cars only. To a reader who builds a car to be competetive on more than one stage, SCC provides a hell of a lot more content than the rest.
4. Would, and have. I was referred to this mag by a friend several years ago myself.
5. Just subscribed for the first time a couple months ago for a 2 year stint. When there was a problem with billing, I called it in and was given a free 6 months on top of that. Good service.
6. SCC is doing fantastic on the evo. I can only imagine the other forums you're posting on, since those guys are probably whining about how there's too much evo content. I'd like to see more DSM stuff though, especially since Gray's eclipse did so well against the sparco evo and buschur's in the USCC. Old school indeed.
7. I'd like to see the project MR used to it's fullest. Develop it even better than the project rx7 was done and do it in a year and a half. As it's built though, take the time to test several different options on the car with actual measured tests to determine which will be selected and which aren't performing up to par. Use your project cars as examples for direct product comparisons. I know the product comparisons could **** off your potential ad sales, but it's what the people want.
PM me if you're looking for a mid-west field correspondent. I can use a camera and speak the king's english as well as japanese (a little).
Some of my favorite SCC articles are the FWD vs. RWD vs. AWD article, the USCC, the article about how a limited slip differential works where force vectors are described, and the first two parts of project 240sx (after that it got WAY to personal and less about the car). Thats the stuff that sells SCC, not burnout of the month, wheel selection guides (total waste of huge space), and coverage of local socal events (boring).
2. the sections that I'd like to see eliminated with are rado's article, reader rides, and marketplace. I understand that reader's rides is needed to keep the sponsors and the masses at ease, but it just grates on me that those sometimes tasteless cars get space in the mag. It's got to be a joke for you guys too sometimes considering that every few months, a car that could be fresh from the 'pimp my ride' set seems to slip through.
I also don't like that issues are thin and yet your subscriptions are pricey.
3. What distinguishes SCC is the appreciation of how mods truly benefit cars. Whether its for drift, drag, or road racing, parts are qualified based on total benefits while not skimping on drawbacks. I sense an appreciation for multiple dimensions of auto racing that most other magazines don't have. In that sense, SCC has more opportunities to readers with varied interests than a one-dimensional competitor that focuses on show cars or drag cars only. To a reader who builds a car to be competetive on more than one stage, SCC provides a hell of a lot more content than the rest.
4. Would, and have. I was referred to this mag by a friend several years ago myself.
5. Just subscribed for the first time a couple months ago for a 2 year stint. When there was a problem with billing, I called it in and was given a free 6 months on top of that. Good service.
6. SCC is doing fantastic on the evo. I can only imagine the other forums you're posting on, since those guys are probably whining about how there's too much evo content. I'd like to see more DSM stuff though, especially since Gray's eclipse did so well against the sparco evo and buschur's in the USCC. Old school indeed.
7. I'd like to see the project MR used to it's fullest. Develop it even better than the project rx7 was done and do it in a year and a half. As it's built though, take the time to test several different options on the car with actual measured tests to determine which will be selected and which aren't performing up to par. Use your project cars as examples for direct product comparisons. I know the product comparisons could **** off your potential ad sales, but it's what the people want.
PM me if you're looking for a mid-west field correspondent. I can use a camera and speak the king's english as well as japanese (a little).
Jan 10, 2005 | 03:10 PM
#34
Originally Posted by scc4evos
- What would make you buy SCC every month?
- What does SCC do that you don't like?
- How are we unique to our competitors?
- Would you recommend us to a friend?
- How likely are you to subscribe?
- How are we delivering on the Lancer Evolution?
- What would you like to see on that particular model?
--If as many of you could respond, Sport Compact Car would greatly appreciate it--
- What does SCC do that you don't like?
- How are we unique to our competitors?
- Would you recommend us to a friend?
- How likely are you to subscribe?
- How are we delivering on the Lancer Evolution?
- What would you like to see on that particular model?
--If as many of you could respond, Sport Compact Car would greatly appreciate it--
Jan 10, 2005 | 03:35 PM
#35
Newbie
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 12
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From: Austin, TX
I have subscribed to SCC for several years. Your magazine helped to build my enthusiasm for the Subaru WRX, and then later for the EVO. It seemed to me then, and even now, that you guys were well informed about what made a car great, even if it wasn't sold in the states.
Recently, it seems that many of the posters have begun to compare your publication with Modified. I think that Modified has done a great job of presenting the scene in a very slick package (good artistic layout without the cheesy busyness you see in the lower rent mags, great photos, good quality paper stock, less ads).
Yes, you guys need to take your title to the next level in presentation, but I believe that there are some things that you definitely do better than anyone else, including Modified.
I believe that the technical articles are your biggest strength. I enjoy the exhaustive articles on new parts installations on your project cars, and their benefits/drawbacks. I also really appreciate the fact that most of these installs are tested on a dyno with a before/after. I think it's important, however, that your plans make sense. For example, what was the point of doing a step-by-step article on spray-painting a new STi, besides pleasing your younger audience (who probably could not afford the car anyway).
I enjoy your coverage of road racing. I would like to see coverage of the SPEED World Challenge. I believe that this series is a perfect fit for your title. More interviews with the drivers and in-depth articles of the vehicles would be nice. Your coverage of rallying is also interesting, but I would like to read more about the WRC, and not local stuff. This would aid in hooking more Suby/EVO owners.
I think you guys are doing a good job of covering the new performance cars out there, without always repeating what the other mainstream auto mags (C&D, R&T, etc.) are saying. For example, I enjoyed reading your article on the new Elise and the response it got in public.
I haver read many different car magazines over the last ten years, and I still strongly believe that the best ones come from the UK. Have you guys ever opened an issue of evo or Top Gear? They are informative but also informal, and at times outright hilarious. They aim for a literate audience, but never talk down to the reader. This should be your ultimate goal--great writing with a politically incorrect edge.
Please stop pandering to the juvenile audience and focus on the things that make you good. Stop printing letters that are naive or hateful, and instead present a forum where intelligent readers can learn from each other. Stop showing so many cars in stories with cliched hooks (I can care less about the owner's history, circumstances, or aspirations), and instead go more in-depth with the actual vehicle (and please drive them!). What makes these cars great? Forget the superficial body-kits, paint job, audio gear, etc. Focus on three things: performance, performance, performance.
Do these things and Modified will have nothing on you guys!
Recently, it seems that many of the posters have begun to compare your publication with Modified. I think that Modified has done a great job of presenting the scene in a very slick package (good artistic layout without the cheesy busyness you see in the lower rent mags, great photos, good quality paper stock, less ads).
Yes, you guys need to take your title to the next level in presentation, but I believe that there are some things that you definitely do better than anyone else, including Modified.
I believe that the technical articles are your biggest strength. I enjoy the exhaustive articles on new parts installations on your project cars, and their benefits/drawbacks. I also really appreciate the fact that most of these installs are tested on a dyno with a before/after. I think it's important, however, that your plans make sense. For example, what was the point of doing a step-by-step article on spray-painting a new STi, besides pleasing your younger audience (who probably could not afford the car anyway).
I enjoy your coverage of road racing. I would like to see coverage of the SPEED World Challenge. I believe that this series is a perfect fit for your title. More interviews with the drivers and in-depth articles of the vehicles would be nice. Your coverage of rallying is also interesting, but I would like to read more about the WRC, and not local stuff. This would aid in hooking more Suby/EVO owners.
I think you guys are doing a good job of covering the new performance cars out there, without always repeating what the other mainstream auto mags (C&D, R&T, etc.) are saying. For example, I enjoyed reading your article on the new Elise and the response it got in public.
I haver read many different car magazines over the last ten years, and I still strongly believe that the best ones come from the UK. Have you guys ever opened an issue of evo or Top Gear? They are informative but also informal, and at times outright hilarious. They aim for a literate audience, but never talk down to the reader. This should be your ultimate goal--great writing with a politically incorrect edge.
Please stop pandering to the juvenile audience and focus on the things that make you good. Stop printing letters that are naive or hateful, and instead present a forum where intelligent readers can learn from each other. Stop showing so many cars in stories with cliched hooks (I can care less about the owner's history, circumstances, or aspirations), and instead go more in-depth with the actual vehicle (and please drive them!). What makes these cars great? Forget the superficial body-kits, paint job, audio gear, etc. Focus on three things: performance, performance, performance.
Do these things and Modified will have nothing on you guys!
lol
Jan 10, 2005 | 04:43 PM
#38
If you don't have thin *** issues like the current, i'd buy it
Magazines nowadays suck. I used to read a lot of them, my favorites are Car and Driver and Road and Track. Even those guys botched it up, road and track made their magazines wider, and Car and Driver got all philosophical, Automobile got all artsy.
Sport Compact Car was one of my favorites. But why in the HELL did a Viper win one of your Ultimate Car Shootouts? Might as well included Vettes.
I want to hear more opinions of why people like or dislike cars. Kids nowdays do not have choices, what they should be into is decided for them. We need more conflict/disagreements as that results in more knowledge of either side. Kids automatically like Evo's and Sti's without knowing why to like them. Ever wonder why everybody has interest in the Skyline? Pretty much because they know so little about it.
I want to rant, but i'm actually going to spend some time writing articles and opinions. I've always wanted to write for an automotive magazine.
THE REASON WHY I READ SCC:
No other magazine relates to a variety of ages about aftermarket parts for sport compacts. I love articles of cars that people actually own and track.
One of the biggest competitors to SCC=GrassrootsMotorsports!
Magazines nowadays suck. I used to read a lot of them, my favorites are Car and Driver and Road and Track. Even those guys botched it up, road and track made their magazines wider, and Car and Driver got all philosophical, Automobile got all artsy.
Sport Compact Car was one of my favorites. But why in the HELL did a Viper win one of your Ultimate Car Shootouts? Might as well included Vettes.
I want to hear more opinions of why people like or dislike cars. Kids nowdays do not have choices, what they should be into is decided for them. We need more conflict/disagreements as that results in more knowledge of either side. Kids automatically like Evo's and Sti's without knowing why to like them. Ever wonder why everybody has interest in the Skyline? Pretty much because they know so little about it.
I want to rant, but i'm actually going to spend some time writing articles and opinions. I've always wanted to write for an automotive magazine.
THE REASON WHY I READ SCC:
No other magazine relates to a variety of ages about aftermarket parts for sport compacts. I love articles of cars that people actually own and track.
One of the biggest competitors to SCC=GrassrootsMotorsports!
Jan 10, 2005 | 04:47 PM
#39
yeh, half of them are ads.
Only reason I read SCC is because of that weird guy who does WRC articles on the front of the magazine.
At least super street got some ads that's interesting. SS sucks too, they've turned to Soft Core **** Magazine since the 90's. lol
Only reason I read SCC is because of that weird guy who does WRC articles on the front of the magazine.
At least super street got some ads that's interesting. SS sucks too, they've turned to Soft Core **** Magazine since the 90's. lol
Jan 10, 2005 | 05:29 PM
#40
Originally Posted by EvoLife
SCC is very technically unspecific and the articles are usually pretty juvenile. I only thumb through it on newstands to see if there's any info I haven't seen yet.
Jan 10, 2005 | 06:18 PM
#43
Evolved Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,481
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I have been trying to find the Feb. '05 issue of DSport on a newsstand with no luck. Someone at RRE called to say there was a Pic of me and my EVO RS in the mag, in the article about the EVO tuner shootout at SOW.
Where the heck can I find a copy of DSport in the South Bay, Downtown L.A., or around Sherman Oaks/Encino ???
Where the heck can I find a copy of DSport in the South Bay, Downtown L.A., or around Sherman Oaks/Encino ???
Jan 10, 2005 | 06:28 PM
#44
Evolving Member
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 447
Likes: 0
From: PA
Originally Posted by scc4evos
- What would make you buy SCC every month?
- What does SCC do that you don't like?
- How are we unique to our competitors?
- Would you recommend us to a friend?
- How likely are you to subscribe?
- How are we delivering on the Lancer Evolution?
- What would you like to see on that particular model?
--If as many of you could respond, Sport Compact Car would greatly appreciate it--
- What does SCC do that you don't like?
- How are we unique to our competitors?
- Would you recommend us to a friend?
- How likely are you to subscribe?
- How are we delivering on the Lancer Evolution?
- What would you like to see on that particular model?
--If as many of you could respond, Sport Compact Car would greatly appreciate it--
- You guys are different because you are Educated... Super Street is a pile of pre-school crap... You guys don't use stupid kid slang either... Your Tech articles are great, need more of them though...
- Yes, would def recommend your mag to a friend... wait, basically i do all the time...
- I've bought nearly every issue since around-ish '01, gotta subscribe, newstands prices are rape...
- Need more more more Tech on the Evo... different suspensions, different state of tunes that perform better than another (i.e. alignments...) ... other bolt-ons like diff exhausts and intakes comparisons, clutches too...
- Comparision Dyno's... different exhausts shootouts, intakes, intercoolers, etc... more how-to's....
oh yeah... and would like a free subscription too...
Great work up to date with the mag though... still my fav...
