It's a sad day when STi guys are doing
Jan 19, 2005 | 02:20 PM
#91
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From: Minnesoter
Originally Posted by SilverEvo8owner
You guys are rediculous. Someone somewhere on some track in this country beat a modded EVO with his modded STi. And you guys care? It's not going to affect you. Take it with a grain of salt. Take it for what it's worth. They were great times. It's obvious these guys can drive. It's obvious that both cars are great cars. There's no reason to get all worked up and insult other people and their cars, especially when the other car is every bit the same level as your own car (EVO).
This doesn't mean it's the end of all dispute. It doesn't mean the STi is always faster than the EVO, and no other comparos are to tell us the EVO is always faster than the STi. If you want to go fast, mod your car and drive better.
That's all there is to it.
This doesn't mean it's the end of all dispute. It doesn't mean the STi is always faster than the EVO, and no other comparos are to tell us the EVO is always faster than the STi. If you want to go fast, mod your car and drive better.
That's all there is to it.
Jan 19, 2005 | 02:21 PM
#92
Originally Posted by FlyTheFluffySky
Being an STi owner and haven driven my fair share of Evos. Let me just say that one person making a post trying to defend his purchase shouldnt make u disrespect all STi owners.
I bought my STi knowing full well that it doesnt respond to mods as well, have looser suspension, and is more expensive to mod. But this doesnt mean it was a bad purchase, i bought it for the comfort, nicer interior, DCCD, Yaw Control (05') and other reasons.
I respect Evo owners and expect the same from them, but from what i have seen of most Evo owners is that they are dicks with some exceptions and this thread has made that obvious. Both cars are great cars but to say that someone has made an bad choice and bought an "inferior" isnt right.
Just some thoughts.
I bought my STi knowing full well that it doesnt respond to mods as well, have looser suspension, and is more expensive to mod. But this doesnt mean it was a bad purchase, i bought it for the comfort, nicer interior, DCCD, Yaw Control (05') and other reasons.
I respect Evo owners and expect the same from them, but from what i have seen of most Evo owners is that they are dicks with some exceptions and this thread has made that obvious. Both cars are great cars but to say that someone has made an bad choice and bought an "inferior" isnt right.
Just some thoughts.
Most importantly, the purchase of these cars shows manufacturers that Americans want and support fast, responsive cars.
Jan 19, 2005 | 03:13 PM
#93
Well.... Top Gear tested the EVO vs STI. let that tell the truth. here is the link to the video (FQ320 vs WRI STI) left click the file and it will driect you to the download page http://www.xtr.ch.vu/
Last edited by kingkyle; Jan 19, 2005 at 03:17 PM.
Jan 19, 2005 | 03:29 PM
#94
Originally Posted by SilverEvo8owner
You guys are rediculous. Someone somewhere on some track in this country beat a modded EVO with his modded STi. And you guys care? It's not going to affect you. Take it with a grain of salt. Take it for what it's worth. They were great times. It's obvious these guys can drive. It's obvious that both cars are great cars. There's no reason to get all worked up and insult other people and their cars, especially when the other car is every bit the same level as your own car (EVO).
This doesn't mean it's the end of all dispute. It doesn't mean the STi is always faster than the EVO, and no other comparos are to tell us the EVO is always faster than the STi. If you want to go fast, mod your car and drive better.
That's all there is to it.
This doesn't mean it's the end of all dispute. It doesn't mean the STi is always faster than the EVO, and no other comparos are to tell us the EVO is always faster than the STi. If you want to go fast, mod your car and drive better.
That's all there is to it.
well said
Jan 19, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 03bluevo8
Didn't you know, if you own an STI it can beat anything!!
Just because you buy an Evo doesn't mean you'll automatically be able to drive it to its full potential; the same goes for the STi. Instead of investing so much hate and anger in this thread, try directing that energy into improving your driving via track days and driving schools. Maybe then you will realize that the Evo and STi are both fantastic cars in the hands of an experienced driver.
I personally don't see the problem with Kingleh's thread. So what if he beat an Evo around a track? Big fricken deal. Some of you need to grow up.
Jan 19, 2005 | 04:14 PM
#97
Ok. My 2 cents.
I know the STi driver, VERY WELL. He is a personal friend of mine. I was at the track when they were doing these runs.
The EVO driver was badly fighting understeer, while the STi had none. And the STi in turn, had quite a bit better times.
What Leh won't understand(STi driver) is that the variables kill his test. The drivers aren't proven to be exactly equal. The EVO had 12k miles on it, the STi has like 3k. so you can imagine the grip difference.
Leh somehow thinks all the magazines are paid off by mitsubishi so they allow the EVO to win, i disagree. I think the race would be MUCH closer if one or the other would have driven both cars around the track. Neither of them are willing to let the other drive their ride though.
And on the ENZO matter, he knows it won't really beat an ENZO around a track. From what i heard, C&D babied the ENZO around that track.
I know the STi driver, VERY WELL. He is a personal friend of mine. I was at the track when they were doing these runs.
The EVO driver was badly fighting understeer, while the STi had none. And the STi in turn, had quite a bit better times.
What Leh won't understand(STi driver) is that the variables kill his test. The drivers aren't proven to be exactly equal. The EVO had 12k miles on it, the STi has like 3k. so you can imagine the grip difference.
Leh somehow thinks all the magazines are paid off by mitsubishi so they allow the EVO to win, i disagree. I think the race would be MUCH closer if one or the other would have driven both cars around the track. Neither of them are willing to let the other drive their ride though.
And on the ENZO matter, he knows it won't really beat an ENZO around a track. From what i heard, C&D babied the ENZO around that track.
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Jan 19, 2005 | 04:23 PM
#98
Originally Posted by gsujeff55
Ok. My 2 cents.
The EVO had 12k miles on it, the STi has like 3k. so you can imagine the grip difference.
Leh somehow thinks all the magazines are paid off by mitsubishi so they allow the EVO to win, i disagree.
The EVO had 12k miles on it, the STi has like 3k. so you can imagine the grip difference.
Leh somehow thinks all the magazines are paid off by mitsubishi so they allow the EVO to win, i disagree.
and I DON THINK MITSU PAID OFF ALL THE MAGAZINES.. like i just told u on AIM
goh dang
Jan 19, 2005 | 05:49 PM
#100
Originally Posted by SilverEvo8owner
You guys are rediculous. Someone somewhere on some track in this country beat a modded EVO with his modded STi. And you guys care? It's not going to affect you. Take it with a grain of salt. Take it for what it's worth. They were great times. It's obvious these guys can drive. It's obvious that both cars are great cars. There's no reason to get all worked up and insult other people and their cars, especially when the other car is every bit the same level as your own car (EVO).
This doesn't mean it's the end of all dispute. It doesn't mean the STi is always faster than the EVO, and no other comparos are to tell us the EVO is always faster than the STi. If you want to go fast, mod your car and drive better.
That's all there is to it.
This doesn't mean it's the end of all dispute. It doesn't mean the STi is always faster than the EVO, and no other comparos are to tell us the EVO is always faster than the STi. If you want to go fast, mod your car and drive better.
That's all there is to it.
Jan 19, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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From: Cali
Originally Posted by twinevo
I would say the Spec C is maybe a little faster than a USDM MR. It couldnt even get by the JDM Evo RS in that video. If we got either the FQ320 or FQ400 it wouldnt even be funny.
Jan 19, 2005 | 06:31 PM
#102
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Originally Posted by s2kguy
Sigh, just to give you guys some perspective here's a good article to read.
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
You guys need to loose this superiority complex. Out of the box the cars are so damn close that NONE of you will ever be able to walk an STi unless the guy driving it is clueless. Simply put, it takes a pro to make the Evo out drive the STi, and you guys aren't it
And lets not get into the mod issue, as there are too many different ways to modify these cars.
Besides, the Srt4 is fAstAr haha.
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
You guys need to loose this superiority complex. Out of the box the cars are so damn close that NONE of you will ever be able to walk an STi unless the guy driving it is clueless. Simply put, it takes a pro to make the Evo out drive the STi, and you guys aren't it
And lets not get into the mod issue, as there are too many different ways to modify these cars.
Besides, the Srt4 is fAstAr haha.
Jan 19, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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this i what i'm saying ppl on this fourm just 2 worried about waht other ppl say about our car
have confident why do you care waht others say when we know we are better just less power in specs
stop srating shiet over 1 another car
both cars are great so lets keep it friendly
have confident why do you care waht others say when we know we are better just less power in specs
stop srating shiet over 1 another car
both cars are great so lets keep it friendly
Jan 19, 2005 | 07:34 PM
#104
Originally Posted by gsujeff55
very well said. i have said the same thing to leh, but he seems to think HIS test means the world. i have told him that they were 2 particular cars on a track....everyone isn't gonna see the same result.
omg........... u need to read the whole thread jeffery
i already said what SilverEvo8owner was well said, and already said that this was just a little test and is getting blown out of preportion.