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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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But in THIS particular article if YOU read it, you will see that this particular car did NOT have ac.
Please let me know where you are seeing this? I looked again but can't find anything stating the RS we tested didn't have A/C.

If that information is there, it's wrong.
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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Did you notice with any of the cars the rear inside wheel coming up in the turns? If so, which car did this the most?
I have an EVO with teh cusco rear triangle brace. Its stiffer, but it feels like the inside rear likes to lift more now and I have more understeer
They all lifted an inside wheel...
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO Neil
Please let me know where you are seeing this? I looked again but can't find anything stating the RS we tested didn't have A/C.

If that information is there, it's wrong.
you just said earlier, but I'll see if I can't scan it tonight or atleast type in the page number.
Originally Posted by EVO Neil
Terry is correct. In 2004 when the RS was to be released, Mitsubishi had the press event and told all of the journalists how the RS was to be equipped(no A/C, Urban Jungle package, etc.), but in between the press event and when the car came out, all of it changed. All RS's come with A/C as standard, their is NO Urban Jungle package nor are their any options on an RS.

The 2005 RS we used in testing had A/C. Mitsubishi pulled it out of the first shipment of production vehicles for us to use in this test.
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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They all lifted an inside wheel...
nice. for some reason i was thinking the MR wouldn't. Did you guys notice any less ridgity in the RS or MR with both having the aluminum roof? That really was a good write up you guys had
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ldstang50
you just said earlier, but I'll see if I can't scan it tonight or atleast type in the page number.
No scans please, just tell me where this is, since I must be missing it.

In previous articles we did state that the RS was coming sans A/C,, but in between the press drives and the cars arriving Mitsubishi changed that and A/C became standard. It's listed in the 2004 Evo RS press kit as not having A/C and Mitsubishi never sent a correction letting us now that they'd dropped the Urban Jungle package and added A/C. I discovered it when reviewing the first shipment of RS's that hit the U.S. Unfortunately, people still use that original press kit for RS information and that's why articles still get out there with the incorrect information.

I proof-read this article to make sure it wasn't incorrectly listed again, so I'll be feeling pretty stupid if it's there. Of course it won't be the first time I've felt stupid...

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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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Link to the dyno numbers:

http://motortrend.com/roadtests/seda...shi_evos_dyno/
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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I followed the link and could only view the straight VIII dyno chart. Are there dynos for the RS and MR that were tested too?

276 crank hp = 228 whp. That's a 17% drivetrain loss.
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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When Sport Compact Car chose the VIII as the car of the year over the RS and MR, they made the same mistake, stating that a reason not to buy the RS is that it doesn't have an air conditioner. Mine does, and so do all RS sold in the USA.
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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Click on the graph and it shows all three. The RS put down 235.
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard EVO
I followed the link and could only view the straight VIII dyno chart. Are there dynos for the RS and MR that were tested too?

276 crank hp = 228 whp. That's a 17% drivetrain loss.

Click on the dyno chart and you'll see all three dyno runs.
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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Thanks, that works. The RS had a slightly stronger engine than the other two cars. The strange thing is that the VIII made peak hp at only 5050 rpm, while the RS and MR made peak at 6300 - 6450; the higher rpms seem right to me. I wouldn't want the engine from the VIII they tested.

The RS had 3% more power than the VIII, so it stands to reason that it would accelerate 3% faster. Since the RS did 0 - 60 mph in 4.3 seconds compared to 4.7 secs for the VIII and MR, which is an 8.5% shorter time, the difference in acceleration is accounted for by more than just power. Since the rule of thumb is that 100 lb. weight reduction will reduce (I think it is quarter mile time, not 0 - 60) by 1/10 of a second, something else besides power and weight are at work.

Or else I'm just BSing because I don't feel like working.
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Steiner

What a gimp...
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO Neil
Please let me know where you are seeing this? I looked again but can't find anything stating the RS we tested didn't have A/C.

If that information is there, it's wrong.
I'd like to see it myself...especially having owned an RS and having read the article. But hey, this guy may see something others have not...and may be privy to secret
production that I missed
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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does anyone have the MR gear ratios. much appreciated.
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo-Ron
does anyone have the MR gear ratios. much appreciated.

Trying searching...I know someone posted a fancy graph comparing the ratios...


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