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Motor Trend Evo,RS,MR test data

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Old Jan 25, 2005, 01:16 PM
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I find it really interesting that the Evo VIII beats the RS in braking, slalom, AND roadcourse.
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Originally Posted by ROGERV
was the evo VIII with moonroof ?
No
Old Jan 25, 2005, 01:33 PM
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Looks like the stiffer KYB shocks are better for the slalom compared to the softer Bilsteins.
Old Jan 25, 2005, 01:38 PM
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Don't forget that the wing not only looks stupid, but it creates significant drag. Take the wing off the MR and it would make a big difference.
Old Jan 25, 2005, 01:41 PM
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Wow, the wing and weight difference between the RS and GSR makes almost a 3 mph difference in trap speed.
Old Jan 25, 2005, 01:46 PM
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Easier to read:
Code:
|-------------------------------------------------------------|
|  Evo                 |  VIII     |  MR       |  RS          |
|-------------------------------------------------------------|
|  0-30                |  1.4      |  1.5      |  1.3         |
|  0-40                |  2.3      |  2.6      |  2.2         |
|  0-50                |  3.5      |  3.5      |  3.3         |
|  0-60                |  4.7      |  4.7      |  4.3         |
|  0-70                |  6.5      |  6.4      |  6.0         |
|  0-80                |  8.3      |  8.0      |  7.7         |
|  0-90                |  11.0     |  10.5     |  10.0        |
|  0-100               |  13.5     |  13.1     |  12.6        |
|  1/4 mile            |  13.5@100 |  13.4@102 |  13.1@102.8  |
|  Brake,100-0         |  322      |  316      |  341         |
|  brake,60-0          |  111      |  111      |  112         |
|  600ft slalom        |  70.9mph  |  70.1mph  |  69.3mph     |
|  200ft skid pad      |  .94      |  .95      |  .95         |
|  roadcourse lap sec. |  92.07    |  91.80    |  92.15       |
|-------------------------------------------------------------|
Old Jan 25, 2005, 01:49 PM
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Did the RS have something wrong with its brakes? Seems like being the lightest of the bunch, it should have the shortest stopping distance???

EDIT: Nevermind I guess even the '05 RS doesn't have ABS?

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Old Jan 25, 2005, 01:51 PM
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Neil, did alll 3 cars have launch control at 5K rpms?

Interesting on the salom between the RS and GSR. I wonder why the GSR is faster? I guess depending on surface traction sometime more weight = better grip.

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Dam RS got 0-60 in 4.3 Seconds! That's smokin!
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The RS does not have ABS. The braking test is done at impending lockup, without ABS this is very difficult to control. This will affect road course times and braking tests.
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Originally Posted by jude
The RS does not have ABS. The braking test is done at impending lockup, without ABS this is very difficult to control. This will affect road course times and braking tests.
Damn I didn't edit my post fast enough
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That's interesting. I thought a lot of people say that ABS doesn't stop as quickly as a good driver without it could? Also a lot of race cars don't use ABS, I think F1 had it and then it was banned but that was an expensive system made just for racing not a normal road car ABS? Anyway the results are there, and the cars with ABS stop quicker even though they are heavier.

To Kordwood: Are you serious? It might create drag for the acceleration times but it also creates a lot of downforce for the handling and road course part. Without it those figures would be a lot worse.

EDIT: I just realised that one of the reasons that the RS takes longer to stop and is slower around the road course could be because it is missing the rear wing. Could this be correct? I have read that Mitsubishi put a lot of effort and wind tunnel testing into the wing and the car so taking it away could have a noticable effect.

EDIT EDIT: ray3328 posted the same thing about the wing while I was editing my post. Sorry.

Aston

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Originally Posted by gtr
Neil, did alll 3 cars have launch control at 5K rpms?

Interesting on the salom between the RS and GSR. I wonder why the GSR is faster? I guess depending on surface traction sometime more weight = better grip.
Yes, all of the '05 have the launch control parameter, limiting them to 5,000 rpm's, which is to low for a good launch.

RS has more oversteer than GSR, less balanced in the slalom.
Old Jan 25, 2005, 02:15 PM
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The article said that the MRs lighter wheels helped on the braking and that the RS had understeer during the laps. Goes to show you that the wing does it's job. I wonder how the VIII would do with lighter rims.
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Why would the RS have more understeer? I have a hard time believing the wing has anything to do with handling below 60 mph.

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