Motor Trend Evo,RS,MR test data
Jan 31, 2005, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO Neil
They're all great cars since they are all Evo's, the bottom line is if you think the MR is worth it buy it, if you don't, don't! Just don't try to convince MR owners it wasn't worth it because I haven't seen one of them post that it wasn't and most traded in an Evo VIII, just as I did.
There's no need to you to jump in the second somebody doesn't offer complete praise to the MR...its a great car and we all know it (regardless of if we think its better than a standard evo or not
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Jan 31, 2005, 02:50 PM
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I really like the sleeper appeal of the Evo VIII without a spoiler...that's what originally drew me to the RS...but maybe it would benefit from a little spoiler. Who knows? Maybe Motor Trend could do a little follow up. 
Jan 31, 2005, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
I really like the sleeper appeal of the Evo VIII without a spoiler...that's what originally drew me to the RS...but maybe it would benefit from a little spoiler. Who knows? Maybe Motor Trend could do a little follow up.
Jan 31, 2005, 05:17 PM
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didnt' they say the motors were pretty close? all with in 1% of each other? I would assume the rs would put out more power cause it has one less pulley (no ac). Granted it is the same motor, but that is less strain on the motor in THAT car. So with less weight and the ability to rev slightly quicker, I would think the RS would be quicker in a straight line.
They also mentioned that the stiffer suspension in the RS coupled with out having the wing and with having the lighter roof (aluminum) it didnt' allow the suspension to load. The EVO VIII had the heavier so it allowed the susension to load and thus handle better.
The lighter wheels on the MR contributed to it being able to brake slightly later so that helps there. As far as straight line performance, weight does make a difference and the wing on the Evo's does produce downforce at 85mph. That would create a slight drag effect and thus reduce the top end. So the RS would have the advantage when it comes to pure straight line performance
They also mentioned that the stiffer suspension in the RS coupled with out having the wing and with having the lighter roof (aluminum) it didnt' allow the suspension to load. The EVO VIII had the heavier so it allowed the susension to load and thus handle better.
The lighter wheels on the MR contributed to it being able to brake slightly later so that helps there. As far as straight line performance, weight does make a difference and the wing on the Evo's does produce downforce at 85mph. That would create a slight drag effect and thus reduce the top end. So the RS would have the advantage when it comes to pure straight line performance
Jan 31, 2005, 05:28 PM
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Some were asking about the ABS on the cars. The independent ABS on the EVO's allows the car to activate ABS on the wheel(s) that are locked up and allow the other to rotate. Old ABS systems would kick ABS on to all the wheels if one tire wheel locked up. The independent system allows the each individual wheel to maintain its own maximum grip while braking. This allows for shorter and more controlled stops.
Jan 31, 2005, 06:57 PM
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Having had both an Evo 8 and an RS I'd say the test is right on about the wing. The RS rear end would get lively, I enjoyed it...but it probably isn't the fastest way around a track. I personally enjoyed not having the abs as it pulses under your foot over rough pavement. One thing I definately agree with in the test is the 6-speed would be worth it for cruising as these cars are buzzy at speed so any reduction would be felt.
Feb 1, 2005, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ldstang50
didnt' they say the motors were pretty close? all with in 1% of each other? I would assume the rs would put out more power cause it has one less pulley (no ac). Granted it is the same motor, but that is less strain on the motor in THAT car. So with less weight and the ability to rev slightly quicker, I would think the RS would be quicker in a straight line.
They also mentioned that the stiffer suspension in the RS coupled with out having the wing and with having the lighter roof (aluminum) it didnt' allow the suspension to load. The EVO VIII had the heavier so it allowed the susension to load and thus handle better.
The lighter wheels on the MR contributed to it being able to brake slightly later so that helps there. As far as straight line performance, weight does make a difference and the wing on the Evo's does produce downforce at 85mph. That would create a slight drag effect and thus reduce the top end. So the RS would have the advantage when it comes to pure straight line performance
They also mentioned that the stiffer suspension in the RS coupled with out having the wing and with having the lighter roof (aluminum) it didnt' allow the suspension to load. The EVO VIII had the heavier so it allowed the susension to load and thus handle better.
The lighter wheels on the MR contributed to it being able to brake slightly later so that helps there. As far as straight line performance, weight does make a difference and the wing on the Evo's does produce downforce at 85mph. That would create a slight drag effect and thus reduce the top end. So the RS would have the advantage when it comes to pure straight line performance
Feb 1, 2005, 09:44 AM
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the RS comes without ac. but you can opt for the jungle package and sprinkle in what you would like, ie power windows, ac and such. it says it in the article they tested an rs without ac
Feb 1, 2005, 09:59 AM
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The urban jungle package never materialized. It was axed before release and all USDM RS's have AC and no power windows.
However, this was a press fleet RS so it is very possible that this was just one of those pre-release RS's without the mythical "urban jungle" package.
However, this was a press fleet RS so it is very possible that this was just one of those pre-release RS's without the mythical "urban jungle" package.
Feb 1, 2005, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO Neil
Exactly, it was a combination of the lightest Evo that just happened to have the strongest motor. Funny that even though it had all of that going for it the VIII and MR were quicker at the track.
We could do this test again with three different Evo's and the acceleration numbers could all be close but different depending on how strong the engine is, in which Evo. The track results would likely be the same, since the weakest engined car in this test finished first at the track.
We could do this test again with three different Evo's and the acceleration numbers could all be close but different depending on how strong the engine is, in which Evo. The track results would likely be the same, since the weakest engined car in this test finished first at the track.
I've always felt that RS is the car to own, if you want to mod/strip for the track (race car) but wouldn't be the fastest in base form on the other hand MRs were the fastest in base form and were for those who didn't want to mod/strip for the track.
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Feb 1, 2005, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
MR rulz! take that RS ..... when I saw the .3 sec difference on the 1/4 mile, I knew it had more to do than just the weight difference and the RS had to have had a stronger motor of the three .... weakest engine and still the fastest on the track
I've always felt that RS is the car to own, if you want to mod/strip for the track (race car) but wouldn't be the fastest in base form on the other hand MRs were the fastest in base form and were for those who didn't want to mod/strip for the track.
I've always felt that RS is the car to own, if you want to mod/strip for the track (race car) but wouldn't be the fastest in base form on the other hand MRs were the fastest in base form and were for those who didn't want to mod/strip for the track.
To each is own though