Motor Trend Evo,RS,MR test data
#122
Originally Posted by ldstang50
For .27seconds hmm. I'll take an RS and throw slicks on it and still be less expensive than the MR and beat it. Or maybe a suspension or maybe just that sway bar to botton down that rear end and I'll again be faster but cheaper.
To each is own though
To each is own though
Last edited by DaWorstPlaya; Feb 1, 2005 at 12:24 PM.
#123
Originally Posted by ldstang50
read the article they said they did NOT have ac in the RS
#125
Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
...RS is a cheaper slower EVO...
#126
Originally Posted by Steiner
Do any of the people in here who have track experience behind the wheel with both the RS and GSR/MR agree with the magazine's opinion of the RS having more oversteer? I refuse to believe the spoiler or Vortex thingy have that much of an impact...if any. If they do BMW would be slapping them on their M5 and M3. Those 2 cars are built to rule the autobahn where speeds like 120mph are nothing.
EDIT: Ooops...I meant oversteer, not understeer.
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...o02/index.html
#127
Originally Posted by jude
Do you think the fact that the RS has the bracing just behind the trunk would attribute to the oversteer?
#128
Originally Posted by Bogie
Check out what SCC had to say about the RS' oversteer:
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...o02/index.html
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...o02/index.html
On the racetrack, it does things most of the modified cars could only dream of. Around the 180-degree Turn Eight, the RS is a rallyist's wet dream. Pitch it in with a little flick in the opposite direction, then hold on as the front bites and pulls the car into easily controlled oversteer. Nearly every other car in the test understeers painfully around this corner. This unconventional technique actually proves to be nearly a full second quicker per lap, proving again how much understeer sucks.
#129
Originally Posted by Terry S
The urban jungle package never materialized. It was axed before release and all USDM RS's have AC and no power windows.
However, this was a press fleet RS so it is very possible that this was just one of those pre-release RS's without the mythical "urban jungle" package.
However, this was a press fleet RS so it is very possible that this was just one of those pre-release RS's without the mythical "urban jungle" package.
The 2005 RS we used in testing had A/C. Mitsubishi pulled it out of the first shipment of production vehicles for us to use in this test.
#130
Originally Posted by EVO Neil
The cars were all tested by the same person (Chris Walton) for all tests as are 95% of what we test. They were tested at Streets of Willow @ Willow Springs International Raceway in Rosamond, CA for the track testing protion of the comparison and Californaia Speedway in Fontana, CA for the instrumented portion of the testing and I can guarantee you that none of our California test team has done any ice racing recently, so it wasn't us you claim to have witnessed.
But anyway thanks for putting the cars on the track head to head. It will allow many to determine which of the VIII's to buy. Just keep it up when the IX and X show up. Maybe I might pick up an issue of MT at borders if you keep this up.
Does your article detail/show the course used at Streets?
Oh yeah and the RS comes just how I wanted it. With A/C minus a whole bunch. I wanted the 3 LSD's without the active center and no ABS. I was actually not even thinking about the Evo VIII until I heard a rumor from an owner of a standard VIII that the RS would come like it did in 2004. Two weeks and 4 dealerships later I was in my Kenmore White 2004 Lancer RS.
Last edited by detroit evo; Feb 1, 2005 at 04:04 PM.
#131
Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
What's to stop the MR owner from throwing slicks on too, then wouldn't the MR faster? you still have to spend money on an suspension don't ya? and if you want to do it right you have to get coilovers, at least $1500. Bottom line more money with careful tuning makes cars faster .... RS is a cheaper slower EVO, but still an EVO none the less with lost of untapped potential .... but also one that lets the owner decide on the staged upgrades ....
Originally Posted by jasonc32amg
Quit benchracing and listen to others who know what they are talking about. Every RS has a/c...I swear some people are illiterate, hasn't this been discussed 1,000 times on here? So a few mags got it wrong...at this point only you and goober at the texaco think the RS comes sans a/c
#132
Originally Posted by detroit evo
Does your article detail/show the course used at Streets?
Congrats on your RS purchase.
Last edited by EVO Neil; Feb 1, 2005 at 05:02 PM.
#133
Originally Posted by ldstang50
You might want to read the article before you start blabbering about **** YOU dont' know. In the article they said the RS they had did NOT have ac. Upon further research and people telling me, I see the urban jungle package did not materialize. But in THIS particular article if YOU read it, you will see that this particular car did NOT have ac.
Originally Posted by EVO Neil
The 2005 RS we used in testing had A/C. Mitsubishi pulled it out of the first shipment of production vehicles for us to use in this test.
#134
LOL
I laugh but not to be an ***. I read that article this weekend and specifically remember them saying the RS had no ac. I wrongfully took that as the RS still had the jungle package option, which I was wrong on.
I laugh but not to be an ***. I read that article this weekend and specifically remember them saying the RS had no ac. I wrongfully took that as the RS still had the jungle package option, which I was wrong on.
#135
EVO Neil
Did you notice with any of the cars the rear inside wheel coming up in the turns? If so, which car did this the most?
I have an EVO with teh cusco rear triangle brace. Its stiffer, but it feels like the inside rear likes to lift more now and I have more understeer
Did you notice with any of the cars the rear inside wheel coming up in the turns? If so, which car did this the most?
I have an EVO with teh cusco rear triangle brace. Its stiffer, but it feels like the inside rear likes to lift more now and I have more understeer