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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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evo weight vs. wrx weight vs. STi weight

The wrx weighs 200 pounds lighter the a STi or an evo. What is it so much lighter? The wrx has pretty much the same dimensions as the STi body. That much less weight equals tons more peformance in the long run. The way it's looking the base wrx is a steal because with the difference in price and weight the wrx could have a turbo upgrade, etc.. and still be 200 pounds lighter then the STi or the evo.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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it is alot of stuff. the tranny is a five speed, no brembos, 2.0 not 2.5, no heavy wing, i could go on all day. there is a lot of diffrences between the wrx and sti.

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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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It's like trying to compare Lancer and EVO's 400lbs difference.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by littleredEVO
it is alot of stuff. the tranny is a five speed, no brembos, 2.0 not 2.5, no heavy wing, i could go on all day. there is a lot of diffrences between the wrx and sti.

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What he said ... add all the performance stuff and the weight will go up to the STi's .....
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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It's like trying to compare Lancer and EVO's 400lbs difference.
Eh not quite, the normal lancer lacks transfer case, rear diff, and 3 less driveshafts.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by godai
It's like trying to compare Lancer and EVO's 400lbs difference.
its actually more like comparing the evo rs and the mr. the mr weighs more but has higher grade performance goodies wich = more weight. however i think with the price difference 9 grand over what i paid is not worthin it considering mine is faster in a straight line, i think having the faster straight line car with the extra money is the way to go. then add the other stuff with the extra money. or if lazy just get the better version and call it a day.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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Yeah but that just kind of kills me that the wrx could be so much faster the even the evo. Yeah you can say that the wrx and the sti are different but how about the wrx and the evo? the wrx would be much faster then an evo with 200 pounds less and all the money to mod it to make it just as good as the evo. The power to weight ratio would be really close between a wrx and an evo. 11.9 to 13.6. Not a big difference. In order to get that much weight off the evo you would have to take out the back seats, take out power windows etc... I mean i love the evo but It's just something to think about.

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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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Good lord when will these threads go away.

You want to save 200lbs? Buy a honda crx and you will have a car that weighs 2000~ lbs. Thats a good 1250 lighter than the evo. Guess what? You'll only spend about 1,500 for the CRX too and then you can spend 20,000 into mods.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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Yeah but compairing a honda CRX to a wrx or an evo is like compairing an apple to an orange, there two totally different machines. Atleast i'm staying in the same family.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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For drag racing a WRX might be ok but for other racing the STI and Evolution have a lot of extra welds and strengthening in the body (and maybe suspension mounts and things) that stops them breaking and reduces body flex.

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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by nightfire115
Yeah but that just kind of kills me that the wrx could be so much faster the even the evo. Yeah you can say that the wrx and the sti are different but how about the wrx and the evo? the wrx would be much faster then an evo with 200 pounds less and all the money to mod it to make it just as good as the evo. The power to weight ratio would be really close between a wrx and an evo. 11.9 to 13.6. Not a big difference. In order to get that much weight off the evo you would have to take out the back seats, take out power windows etc... I mean i love the evo but It's just something to think about.
Problem with your logic is ... the more power you make the more you are going to start breaking parts ... the WRX tranny will not be able to hold all that power. The EVO and STi tranny are much more beefy ... stronger tranny usually means more weight ... likewise for the engine and its internals ... trust me I know, I used to own a WRX ....
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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Skip the WRX, the blocks are too weak. Take a look at an older 2.5 RS. It weighs about 200 lbs less than the WRX. Pick one up for $8,000 - $10,000 and put the money in upgrading the engine. The JDM STi block would be great if you can find one with the drive train for cheap.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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I understand what everybody is talking about when they say that the block and the tranny aren't as strong, but remember i'm not shooting astrinomical amounts of power. I'm shooting to have a car that would be competitive/on par with an evo and a sti for much less money.

Initially i'm not shooting for more then about 260 hp (260hp crank should be enough to have a similiar if not better power to weight ratio then an evo). It shouldn't be that hard to hit that with basic mods and with decent reliability.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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Eh not quite, the normal lancer lacks transfer case, rear diff, and 3 less driveshafts.
I know, and therefore 400 instead of 200lbs of difference.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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the transmission on wrx's can't handel much more power...



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