622 Whp on 93 octane pump gas with Alcohol injection kit !
Feb 10, 2005, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by beavis4g63t
why don't you know were the rpm pickup is? there are only three wires going to the coil. it is the closest one to the front of the car.
what turbo did you use to achieve 600hp by 5000 rpms?
why did you only rev the car to 7000 rpms?
what is the a/f fuel ratio?
i know the rpms of the car because i went and looked at evo dyno files by rpm vs mph. an evo in third gear reaches 7400 rpms at 85 mph give or take on a dynojet. i'm not trying to flame i just want to beleive that these results are possible.
what turbo did you use to achieve 600hp by 5000 rpms?
why did you only rev the car to 7000 rpms?
what is the a/f fuel ratio?
i know the rpms of the car because i went and looked at evo dyno files by rpm vs mph. an evo in third gear reaches 7400 rpms at 85 mph give or take on a dynojet. i'm not trying to flame i just want to beleive that these results are possible.
I use a GT35R turbo
I dont want to blow up the engine on the dyno so I cut off the pulls at 7,000 - although I have reved it to 10,000 before
a/f is 11.9 / 1
60 mph = 5,000 rpms approx
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Sadly we discover that the limited jets on this kit do not allow us to go much further on race gas and I decided to stop till I can work out a upgraded set up for 600 whp plus cars
There was plenty of juice up to 600 and then the alcohol was too thin
Here is C-16 with the alcohol at 36 psi
With and without the air filter
There was plenty of juice up to 600 and then the alcohol was too thin
Here is C-16 with the alcohol at 36 psi
With and without the air filter
Feb 10, 2005, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by steveevo8
Al i think its only fair you stop teasing us with these numbers and show us a video. atleast a good 4 min video just of you driving in car video and outside shots, its ONLY fair to these wonderful evom memebers... PLEASE AL!!
I agree its time to do this
WHO can advise me which camera is good to buy and HOW to post it up so you guys can see it ?
Feb 10, 2005, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Yes and I have the Rennart in car camera mount and no camera
I agree its time to do this
WHO can advise me which camera is good to buy and HOW to post it up so you guys can see it ?
I agree its time to do this
WHO can advise me which camera is good to buy and HOW to post it up so you guys can see it ?
The alternative is to go with a mini-DV camcorder. After shooting the video you'll have to transfer the video to your PC and then reencode the video so you can post it.
Yet another alternative would be to buy something like the JVO Everio GZMC100. It shoots video straight to MPEG2 video and stores it on a compact flash microdrive. Very pimp little camera but you'll still have to reencode the video at a lower resolution.
Feb 10, 2005, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
60 mph = 5,000 rpms approx
45 mph = 3750 RPM = aprox 100 HP = aprox 140 lb/ft of torque (start of graph)
48 mph = 4000 RPM = aprox 200 HP = aprox 262 lb/ft of torque
54 mph = 4500 RPM = aprox 375 HP = aprox 438 lb/ft of torque
60 mph = 5000 RPM = aprox 520 HP = aprox 546 lb/ft of torque
63 mph = 5252 RPM = aprox 600 HP = aprox 600 lb/ft of torque (torque peak)
66 mph = 5500 RPM = aprox 580 HP = aprox 553 lb/ft of torque
72 mph = 6000 RPM = aprox 605 HP = aprox 530 lb/ft of torque
78 mph = 6500 RPM = aprox 622 HP = aprox 502 lb/ft of torque (HP peak)
For comparison, my car on pump gas and stock turbo has 165hp/248 torque at 3500 RPM and 245HP/322 torque at 4000 RPM.... after that you blow me away! By 4500 RPM I have 265HP/309 torque compared to your 375HP/438 torque
Later,
Keith
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Feb 10, 2005, 05:38 PM
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Good work - seems about spot on
Originally Posted by Fourdoor
Using the first graph you posted and the number supplied above to come up with a conversion factor, I was able to come up with the following numbers reading the graph on a monitor, converting speed to RPM, and then comverting HP to torque using the torque = HP x 5252 / RPM... here are the results:
45 mph = 3750 RPM = aprox 100 HP = aprox 140 lb/ft of torque (start of graph)
48 mph = 4000 RPM = aprox 200 HP = aprox 262 lb/ft of torque
54 mph = 4500 RPM = aprox 375 HP = aprox 438 lb/ft of torque
60 mph = 5000 RPM = aprox 520 HP = aprox 546 lb/ft of torque
63 mph = 5252 RPM = aprox 600 HP = aprox 600 lb/ft of torque (torque peak)
66 mph = 5500 RPM = aprox 580 HP = aprox 553 lb/ft of torque
72 mph = 6000 RPM = aprox 605 HP = aprox 530 lb/ft of torque
78 mph = 6500 RPM = aprox 622 HP = aprox 502 lb/ft of torque (HP peak)
For comparison, my car on pump gas and stock turbo has 165hp/248 torque at 3500 RPM and 245HP/322 torque at 4000 RPM.... after that you blow me away! By 4500 RPM I have 265HP/309 torque compared to your 375HP/438 torque
Later,
Keith
45 mph = 3750 RPM = aprox 100 HP = aprox 140 lb/ft of torque (start of graph)
48 mph = 4000 RPM = aprox 200 HP = aprox 262 lb/ft of torque
54 mph = 4500 RPM = aprox 375 HP = aprox 438 lb/ft of torque
60 mph = 5000 RPM = aprox 520 HP = aprox 546 lb/ft of torque
63 mph = 5252 RPM = aprox 600 HP = aprox 600 lb/ft of torque (torque peak)
66 mph = 5500 RPM = aprox 580 HP = aprox 553 lb/ft of torque
72 mph = 6000 RPM = aprox 605 HP = aprox 530 lb/ft of torque
78 mph = 6500 RPM = aprox 622 HP = aprox 502 lb/ft of torque (HP peak)
For comparison, my car on pump gas and stock turbo has 165hp/248 torque at 3500 RPM and 245HP/322 torque at 4000 RPM.... after that you blow me away! By 4500 RPM I have 265HP/309 torque compared to your 375HP/438 torque
Later,
Keith
Feb 10, 2005, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
My car has a copil on plug ignition and there are no exposed coil wires - I never bothered to figure out how to hook up the coil wires as I do all the data logging and tuning with my AEM
I use a GT35R turbo
I dont want to blow up the engine on the dyno so I cut off the pulls at 7,000 - although I have reved it to 10,000 before
a/f is 11.9 / 1
60 mph = 5,000 rpms approx
I use a GT35R turbo
I dont want to blow up the engine on the dyno so I cut off the pulls at 7,000 - although I have reved it to 10,000 before
a/f is 11.9 / 1
60 mph = 5,000 rpms approx
thanks for the reply. did you say what the correction factor was?
Feb 11, 2005, 07:22 AM
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Great numbers Al. Just remember that Methanol will EAT rubber. If you running braided, teflon lined fuel lines, than I would only worry about o-rings and things of that nature in the fuel system. However, if your using typical rubber lined braided hose than expect to replace it often.
Feb 11, 2005, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Drifto
Great numbers Al. Just remember that Methanol will EAT rubber. If you running braided, teflon lined fuel lines, than I would only worry about o-rings and things of that nature in the fuel system. However, if your using typical rubber lined braided hose than expect to replace it often.
I sell these kits for $499 shipped complete
Feb 11, 2005, 03:56 PM
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al i'm telling u man just put a second set of HUGE injectors and just do a complete stand alone secondary fuel system that will feed the engine straight meth past 20 psi, all you would have to do to tune for it is just tune the load sites after 20 psi, and then make some kind of a safety switch so that when the methanol fuel cell goes empty or on extremely low it wont allow the car to boost past 20 psi.
then get a bigger turbo and just put down the 8 or 900 horses on a street car that you can fuel it up with pump gas at any gas station and keep it mooving like nothing happend.
that my friend, would be a cool car.
Ed-
then get a bigger turbo and just put down the 8 or 900 horses on a street car that you can fuel it up with pump gas at any gas station and keep it mooving like nothing happend.
that my friend, would be a cool car.
Ed-
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