View Poll Results: Which EVO model would you buy, all 3 cost $30,000
MR
108
76.06%
GSR
25
17.61%
RS
9
6.34%
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If all Evo's cost the same, which would you buy?
Feb 21, 2005, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by alex_alex
The choice is indeed clear. The MR and the GSR are both faster than the RS at the track . . .
Feb 21, 2005, 12:37 PM
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You might as well take GSR off. Most people don't care about sunroof so they'll just get an MR if they could. Flatspotting tires is bad, that's why you need experience without ABS to do well at a track without it.
Feb 21, 2005, 12:39 PM
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It's not a good comparison because the differences between RS, GS-R, and MR USDM Evos are not the same as JDM Evos.
In Japan and elsewhere in Europe, the RS is sold without Brembo brakes. It just has regular brakes with steel wheels and crappy tyres.
Historically, the purpose of the RS is not to build a faster car, but a cheaper car. Mitsuditchy assumed that racers would put on their own go-fast parts and set the car up according to what the driver's style, the sanctioning body's rules, budget, etc.
If they stripped down the RS even more, took off the brembos, took off the Enkeis, took off the Racaros, took off the Momo wheel, and sold it for $20,000, how many of those do you think they would sell? That's what an RS is supposed to be.
It would handle like crap and brake like crap stock, but for $20,000, would it be worth it?
In Japan and elsewhere in Europe, the RS is sold without Brembo brakes. It just has regular brakes with steel wheels and crappy tyres.
Historically, the purpose of the RS is not to build a faster car, but a cheaper car. Mitsuditchy assumed that racers would put on their own go-fast parts and set the car up according to what the driver's style, the sanctioning body's rules, budget, etc.
If they stripped down the RS even more, took off the brembos, took off the Enkeis, took off the Racaros, took off the Momo wheel, and sold it for $20,000, how many of those do you think they would sell? That's what an RS is supposed to be.
It would handle like crap and brake like crap stock, but for $20,000, would it be worth it?
Feb 21, 2005, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by g6civcx
It's not a good comparison because the differences between RS, GS-R, and MR USDM Evos are not the same as JDM Evos.
In Japan and elsewhere in Europe, the RS is sold without Brembo brakes. It just has regular brakes with steel wheels and crappy tyres.
Historically, the purpose of the RS is not to build a faster car, but a cheaper car. Mitsuditchy assumed that racers would put on their own go-fast parts and set the car up according to what the driver's style, the sanctioning body's rules, budget, etc.
If they stripped down the RS even more, took off the brembos, took off the Enkeis, took off the Racaros, took off the Momo wheel, and sold it for $20,000, how many of those do you think they would sell? That's what an RS is supposed to be.
It would handle like crap and brake like crap stock, but for $20,000, would it be worth it?
In Japan and elsewhere in Europe, the RS is sold without Brembo brakes. It just has regular brakes with steel wheels and crappy tyres.
Historically, the purpose of the RS is not to build a faster car, but a cheaper car. Mitsuditchy assumed that racers would put on their own go-fast parts and set the car up according to what the driver's style, the sanctioning body's rules, budget, etc.
If they stripped down the RS even more, took off the brembos, took off the Enkeis, took off the Racaros, took off the Momo wheel, and sold it for $20,000, how many of those do you think they would sell? That's what an RS is supposed to be.
It would handle like crap and brake like crap stock, but for $20,000, would it be worth it?
Feb 21, 2005, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pyrovice
For a dd i love the sunroof and leather... GSR for me if it's my only car.
Feb 21, 2005, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by alex_alex
did you see the motortrend article?
the difference was huge.
the difference was huge.
Feb 21, 2005, 01:40 PM
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I'm willing to bet the testers probably couldn't brake worth a damn. Most people I know who track would prefer no ABS.
Feb 21, 2005, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkMastyr
I'm willing to bet the testers probably couldn't brake worth a damn. Most people I know who track would prefer no ABS.
And they were running 1:31-1:32's STOCK at streets. Pretty damn good drivers.
you can bet all you want on it, but i'd call it cognitive dissonance.
Feb 21, 2005, 02:49 PM
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this is a stupid question IMO because the MR would be the best bang for your buck. the RS costing 30K with no ac, sound, or 6speed, while the MR has a 6speed, soundsystem, and ac and has more useless crap.
Feb 21, 2005, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by g6civcx
It's not a good comparison because the differences between RS, GS-R, and MR USDM Evos are not the same as JDM Evos.
In Japan and elsewhere in Europe, the RS is sold without Brembo brakes. It just has regular brakes with steel wheels and crappy tyres.
Historically, the purpose of the RS is not to build a faster car, but a cheaper car. Mitsuditchy assumed that racers would put on their own go-fast parts and set the car up according to what the driver's style, the sanctioning body's rules, budget, etc.
If they stripped down the RS even more, took off the brembos, took off the Enkeis, took off the Racaros, took off the Momo wheel, and sold it for $20,000, how many of those do you think they would sell? That's what an RS is supposed to be.
It would handle like crap and brake like crap stock, but for $20,000, would it be worth it?
In Japan and elsewhere in Europe, the RS is sold without Brembo brakes. It just has regular brakes with steel wheels and crappy tyres.
Historically, the purpose of the RS is not to build a faster car, but a cheaper car. Mitsuditchy assumed that racers would put on their own go-fast parts and set the car up according to what the driver's style, the sanctioning body's rules, budget, etc.
If they stripped down the RS even more, took off the brembos, took off the Enkeis, took off the Racaros, took off the Momo wheel, and sold it for $20,000, how many of those do you think they would sell? That's what an RS is supposed to be.
It would handle like crap and brake like crap stock, but for $20,000, would it be worth it?
Feb 21, 2005, 03:01 PM
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None of the above.
I want an RS with all of the MR mechanicals-abs, active diff, and I want SYCII
Basically, a lightweight MR. Oh yeah, 400+ whp while we're at it
I want an RS with all of the MR mechanicals-abs, active diff, and I want SYCII
Basically, a lightweight MR. Oh yeah, 400+ whp while we're at it