PorkRinds

More fuel for the rumor pool?

This came from a person's auto site called AutoZine. He has news on lots of different cars like the Aston Martin AMV8. The interesting note is the first paragraph about the "next" US EVO.

Have a look... and don't shoot the messenger...

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Jan 5, 2003

Lancer Evo VIII for USA

First of all, don’t be too excited to see the "Evo VIII" nameplate, because this Evo VIII is somewhat a Federalized version of the current Evo VII aiming for the USA market. The "real" Evo VIII - we are talking about Japanese version - will arrive later in the year and is likely to have a 6-speed gearbox. In contrast, this US version has 5-speed only, like Evo VII.

In enthusiasts point of view, the US-version Evo VIII is by all means inferior to the current Evo VII. First of all, tuned to meet the LEV regulation, power output of its 4G63 engine drops from 280hp to 271hp (SAE) while torque reduces from 282 to 273lbft. On the other hand, the US-spec bumpers and other modifications raises kerb weight from 1400 to 1480kg, deteriorating performance further. There is no official performance, but expect 0-60mph will take around 5.5 seconds instead of the current 4.7 seconds.

However, the biggest disappointment is the discard of ACD active center differential and AYC active yaw control, which make the Evo VII so sharp in cornering. In place of them are an ordinary viscous-coupling center LSD and a mechanical rear LSD respectively. Luckily, Brembo brakes are retained.

The only improvement is probably its look - the new corporate grille and bumpers look smarter than before. The shape of rear spoiler is mostly unaltered, but they are now made of carbon-fiber.

The birth of US-legal Lancer Evo is probably triggered by the success of Impreza WRX over there. Mitsubishi hopes this world-famous model will improve the image of the company, which has been seen as dull after the death of 3000GT VR4. The car will be shown in Detroit Motor Show this month and will go on sale in the first half. The company expects it will capture 6,500 units of sales in the first year, about the same as those sold to other countries (including home market) combined. Seems like a good business.

Fireball

iTrader: (15)

This guy sounds like some of these pessimists on this board. I don't believe a word he says. I'd much rather believe Claudius, since he actually has an Evolution and keeps up-to-date stuff.

ocOZkid

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The "next" U.S. evo???
Seeing as this is the first U.S. evo I don't see why you would call it the "next" U.S. evo and some of those comments about the evo are true but the "rumoured six speed" I though this was confirmed a long time ago.but no big deal that's the stuff that has been on the forum for the last month or two at least.

highvoltage6v

Specifications


General

Manufacturer Mitsubishi
Model Lancer Evolution VIII
Powertrain Layout Front Engine / Full-Time 4WD
Base Price Not Available

Dimensions

Length 4535 mm / 178.5 in
Width 1770 mm / 69.7 in
Height 1450 mm / 57.1 in
Wheelbase 2625 mm / 103.3 in
Weight 1825 kg / 4024 lbs
Front / Rear Track F 1515 mm / 59.6 in
R 1515 mm / 59.6 in

Engine

Configuration 2.0 Liter Intercooler Turbo Inline 4
Valvetrain DOHC 4 Valves / Cylinder
Displacement 1997 cc / 121.9 cu in
Power 202.1 kW / 271.0 bhp at 6500 rpm
Torque 370.1 Nm / 273.0 ft lbs at 3500 rpm
Bore 85.0 mm / 3.35 in
Stroke 88.0 mm / 3.46 in
Compression Ratio 8.8:1
Bhp / Liter 135.70 bhp
Redline 7000 rpm

Chassis & Body

Body / Frame Not Available
Steering Rack & Pinion w/ Power Assist
Brake Type Brembo Ventilated Discs w/ Four-Piston Front Calipers, Two-Piston Rear Calipers, Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD) & Four-Channel ABS

Brake Size F 356 mm / 14.0 in
R 305 mm / 12.0 in
Wheels F 43.2 x 20.3 cm / 17.0 x 8.0 in
R 43.2 x 20.3 cm / 17.0 x 8.0 in
Tyres F 235/45ZR-17
R 235/45ZR-17

Transmission

Gear Type 5 Speed Manual
Final Drive 4.53:1
1st Gear Ratio 2.93:1
2nd Gear Ratio 1.95:1
3rd Gear Ratio 1.41:1
4th Gear Ratio 1.03:1
5th Gear Ratio 0.72:1

Performance

Top Speed 250.0 kph / 155.3 mph
0 - 60 mph 4.8 seconds <---------
0 - 100 mph Not Available
0 - ¼ mile 13.7 seconds
EPA City / Highway 18 / 26 mpg

I found this, just thought that you wanted to see it...its from...http://www.supercarsite.net/lancer_evolution_viii.htm

psi2high

Weight 1825 kg / 4024 lbs.....wtf??? i hope it aint that heavy....

Tristar

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As an engineer, I would love to see all the people *****ing about not having the AYC actually explain in their own words what the unit actually does, how it does it, and why its sooo damn important. I figure by now Claudius must be tired of trying to tell noobs the AYC is not only selling point of the Evo series. I weap for the future.....lol

JWangSDC

4.7 sounds about right for 0-60 doesn't it? But that's only because of 4WD...it's like beating on the clutch...the 1/4mile time of 13.7 also seems accurate, but is not so impressive...

jon_e_blaze

that guy sounds about full of it. but unfortunately the internet lets everyone voice thier opinion, even dumb asses like that!

Evolution Se7en

First of all, the Euro spec Evo VII is 276HP underrated; it's more like 300+. Second, the Euro spec Evo VII does 0-60 in 4.6 seconds. I don't know where you got your numbers. That is what I've heard/read everywhere.

The US VIII has been watered down, face it. I don't like it, you don't like it. I really don't see why Evolutions in Japan/Europe can be way better, and still cost the same. While in the US, it has to be downgraded, and then price gouged. The only way in hell that I would pay like 37K for a US Evo is if if the specs where EXACTLY the same as what the Europeans and Japanese people where getting.

Right now, I'm leaning towards an EI VII, but if this article proves right, maybe there will be another Evo....who knows

VII

Ev0six

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A local CA bay area shop had a imported Evo 7 (maybe a EI car) dynoed with the crappy California 91 octane and it posted 217 whp and 230 whp with Union 76 100 octane (the blue stuff). Anybody know the typical percentage loss of power to the wheels on the Evo?

gtr

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https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...threadid=12368

We've talked about it.

broeli

iTrader: (19)

Typical loss for awd is 25%. That means that Evo VII put out 270-290hp flywheel hp. The under-rated part simply isn't true. I've seen several VII's dynoed and they are right around the hp they are listed at..maybe slightly more..but they definitely aren't under-rated like the new Cobra Mustangs.
The US Evo is 5-10hp than j-spec

ocOZkid

iTrader: (1)

Apx. 280 to the wheel? If the evoVII is under rated and it sits at 300hp then the drivetrain loss would be apx. 75 hp putting it at 225whp not 270-290, and if it isn't over rated then it would put down 210whp. Unless you were trying to say something else I can't make sense out of your numbers.

Liandrin11

I actually think he meant to say under-rated, not over-rated, and also meant to say 270-290 at flywheel, not wheel, though I don't want to put words in someone's mouth if that's not what they meant .