having a hard time evo or sti
May 29, 2005, 11:42 PM
#31
Originally Posted by STiSchucky
Hows the EVO more special then the STi?
http://astro.temple.edu/~tua06166/sccscan1.jpg
http://astro.temple.edu/~tua06166/sccscan2.jpg
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...light=car+year
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...light=car+year
May 29, 2005, 11:58 PM
#32
Evolving Member
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 242
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by ebaybrad
I am new here. I am sure that this has been done before many times. I am having a hard time deciding between the two. Both are really excellent cars overall. I know that Subaru has a very good serivce department and make excellent cars. They also arent in financial trouble like Mitsu. I have heard that Mitsu's start to rattle and creak when they get some mileage on em. I have also heard that the ride quality on the evo is tough compared to the subaru and that the subaru is easier to live with daily. I rode in both and got to drive niether (damn dealers). The evo was a MR and it seemed to have good ride quality (though we weren;t on a tough road). The Subaru, to me, does not have as nice styling outside...but nicer inside. I am going to remove the wing from either and think that the evo will look better without it. I know i will get biased answers here, however, i really need help deciding. Lets face it, neither look like Ferarri's, however, that is not why we like em is it?
Any direction would be greatly appreciated.
Any direction would be greatly appreciated.
Dude okay, Just last weekend I was faced with the EXACT same situation you are in, and I made the call last weekend - Evolution MR. Picked it up last saturday and ive had ZERO regrets.
Here's why I did it:
Everything you said is right, well most of it. You're right, the STi has a nicer interior (6-disc changer, pretty seats & dash, + cruise control). But if you have an i-pod, who needs the 6 disc. Seats, I went for stability over fat-man seets.
And what REALLY pushed me into the evo was the performance. I got really lucky, and both the subie dealership and the mitsu guys told me to really open the car up. (sucks for whover gets the car I test drove). In the end, the MR felt like such a better driving experience. You're connected to the road so well, something the STi will ALWAYS lack. The steering on the Evo MR sold me. Its perfection, to say the least. You can be cruising wonderfully with 1 finger on the wheel and if you need to take that REALLY tight corner at 45 mph just spin the wheel and feel those seats grab you.
sti has nothing on the MR for handling. Speed/power is such a drivers game really. Trust me i drove them both. Sti has more low-end grunt but it really lacks what the evo has in the high rpm's. Like I said its a drivers game.
Go with the MR you will not regret it !!!
p.s. if you ever want to take people in the back of your car, GOOD LUCK WITH THE STI lololol. Evo has so much room in the back its wonderful. Im 6'2 and my friends can sit back there with plenty of comfort.
May 30, 2005, 07:31 AM
#35
Newbie
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by burningmoney97
Put it like this...
If you want to reduce your speeding tickets, buy an EVO.
May 30, 2005, 11:03 AM
#36
Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ME
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
hmmm......I don't want to egg on the stupid EVO/STi battle but........the EVo is hundreths or thousandths of a second faster than a STi in many tests I've seen. Big deal....but you know what....it only happened because a computer is controlling the handling. Thats sad. If you can't drive a car, drive a EVO. I watched something funny lastnight, actually I videotaped it. 2 MR's raced at a demolition derby. They competed in a "Spectator Drag Race" which was one lap oval drag racing. Winner advances. The 1st MR got beat by a 97+ Camaro...stock. The second MR won the event..but got his car destroyed in the process. The back bumper got smashed, and he now blows bluish/yellow smoke.......whata smart EVO owner...typical. I would post the video but I don't have the program to download it to my computer. One of the EVo owners is on this board...I will save him the humiliation and keep his name quiet.
After watching the MR's run around the track I am convinced that they really don't handle all that great. They both almost crashed going into turns...yeah I have it on film. The cars pushed through the corners. Where is that great handling?
oh yeah...the Camaro driver was a female.
One more thing......go onto the STi boards.......you won't hear or see one thread about the EVO. They don't complain about them or talk"junk"...like I see here all the time. All this board seems to do is whine about STi's....why?
After watching the MR's run around the track I am convinced that they really don't handle all that great. They both almost crashed going into turns...yeah I have it on film. The cars pushed through the corners. Where is that great handling?
oh yeah...the Camaro driver was a female.
One more thing......go onto the STi boards.......you won't hear or see one thread about the EVO. They don't complain about them or talk"junk"...like I see here all the time. All this board seems to do is whine about STi's....why?
Last edited by Titleist71; May 30, 2005 at 11:06 AM.
May 30, 2005, 11:15 AM
#37
Evolved Member
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: .
Posts: 1,302
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Titleist71
hmmm......I don't want to egg on the stupid EVO/STi battle but........the EVo is hundreths or thousandths of a second faster than a STi in many tests I've seen. Big deal....but you know what....it only happened because a computer is controlling the handling. Thats sad. If you can't drive a car, drive a EVO. I watched something funny lastnight, actually I videotaped it. 2 MR's raced at a demolition derby. They competed in a "Spectator Drag Race" which was one lap oval drag racing. Winner advances. The 1st MR got beat by a 97+ Camaro...stock. The second MR won the event..but got his car destroyed in the process. The back bumper got smashed, and he now blows bluish/yellow smoke.......whata smart EVO owner...typical. I would post the video but I don't have the program to download it to my computer. One of the EVo owners is on this board...I will save him the humiliation and keep his name quiet.
After watching the MR's run around the track I am convinced that they really don't handle all that great. They both almost crashed going into turns...yeah I have it on film. The cars pushed through the corners. Where is that great handling?
oh yeah...the Camaro driver was a female.
One more thing......go onto the STi boards.......you won't hear or see one thread about the EVO. They don't complain about them or talk"junk"...like I see here all the time. All this board seems to do is whine about STi's....why?
After watching the MR's run around the track I am convinced that they really don't handle all that great. They both almost crashed going into turns...yeah I have it on film. The cars pushed through the corners. Where is that great handling?
oh yeah...the Camaro driver was a female.
One more thing......go onto the STi boards.......you won't hear or see one thread about the EVO. They don't complain about them or talk"junk"...like I see here all the time. All this board seems to do is whine about STi's....why?
Anyways, to the original poster... good luck on your decision. Remember that it will ultimately come down to what YOU feel comfortable in and comfortable with. Hope you get what you wnat!!!
May 30, 2005, 11:28 AM
#38
Evolving Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 361
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I've been happy with my RS. If you do go the RS route, you'll have to roll up your own windows, install your own radio, live without ABS, etc. I'm OK with it because I bought it for the track. Also, you have to really like red or white paint.
That said, you'll have a lighter car, no wing; and will have saved about $8k to spend on mods of your choosing. You can do a hell of a lot to an EVO with $8k.
Warranty on Mitsu has as much to do with the dealership as it does w/mitsu.
That said, you'll have a lighter car, no wing; and will have saved about $8k to spend on mods of your choosing. You can do a hell of a lot to an EVO with $8k.
Warranty on Mitsu has as much to do with the dealership as it does w/mitsu.
May 30, 2005, 11:47 AM
#39
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 1,179
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by dsmythe2
I've been happy with my RS. If you do go the RS route, you'll have to roll up your own windows, install your own radio, live without ABS, etc. I'm OK with it because I bought it for the track. Also, you have to really like red or white paint.
That said, you'll have a lighter car, no wing; and will have saved about $8k to spend on mods of your choosing. You can do a hell of a lot to an EVO with $8k.
Warranty on Mitsu has as much to do with the dealership as it does w/mitsu.
That said, you'll have a lighter car, no wing; and will have saved about $8k to spend on mods of your choosing. You can do a hell of a lot to an EVO with $8k.
Warranty on Mitsu has as much to do with the dealership as it does w/mitsu.
I bought an RS in February and have been very happy with it. If Subaru offered a stripped down version of the STi I may have bought one of those instead, but they don't. I really wanted side-airbags, having been in a bad side impact collision before, but the '05 Evos all have reinforced door beams. It's not quite a wash, but it's definately a form of supplemental side protection.
One thing you need to do is drive both cars. My dealership had an '05 STi (that they took as a trade on an '05 Evo) with pink springs and a stiffer rear sway bar. It definately had more grunt down low (2k-2.8k RPM's) but the Evo, even in stock form, handled much better in a bunch of different ways...driver feedback, planted to the road, seats holding you in, steering rack, etc.
Take a look at the roads you drive everyday and make a decicison...stoplight brawler or twisty killer? I drive through the foothills every day so the Evo made more sense.
BTW...aftermarket goes to the Evo's 4g63. If you plan to mod you're dollar will go a lot further on the Evo.
After driving both you can tell the Sti is slower in steering response.
May 30, 2005, 04:22 PM
#41
Evolving Member
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 145
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From what I have seen, 90% of both cars owners can't drive the damn things properly, so I wouldn't get too worked up about some of the minute differences that people describe.
I constantly hear people here going on about their 600hp Evo's and Impreza owners making mod changes to the car before actually being actually able to drive the things.
What possible use is a 600bhp evo - the damn thing would be sooooo laggy, as to make the thing undrivable. If you need to take either of these cars to the drag strip, you are just demonstrating that you have no idea of what these cars are for.
Buy the car that you most want, keep it pretty stock, and get some driving lessons to boot. Not only will you enjoy the car much more, you'll be able to sell it in a few years after some hassle free and fun motoring.
I constantly hear people here going on about their 600hp Evo's and Impreza owners making mod changes to the car before actually being actually able to drive the things.
What possible use is a 600bhp evo - the damn thing would be sooooo laggy, as to make the thing undrivable. If you need to take either of these cars to the drag strip, you are just demonstrating that you have no idea of what these cars are for.
Buy the car that you most want, keep it pretty stock, and get some driving lessons to boot. Not only will you enjoy the car much more, you'll be able to sell it in a few years after some hassle free and fun motoring.
May 30, 2005, 04:44 PM
#43
Originally Posted by Titleist71
hmmm......I don't want to egg on the stupid EVO/STi battle but........the EVo is hundreths or thousandths of a second faster than a STi in many tests I've seen. Big deal....but you know what....it only happened because a computer is controlling the handling. Thats sad. If you can't drive a car, drive a EVO. I watched something funny lastnight, actually I videotaped it. 2 MR's raced at a demolition derby. They competed in a "Spectator Drag Race" which was one lap oval drag racing. Winner advances. The 1st MR got beat by a 97+ Camaro...stock. The second MR won the event..but got his car destroyed in the process. The back bumper got smashed, and he now blows bluish/yellow smoke.......whata smart EVO owner...typical. I would post the video but I don't have the program to download it to my computer. One of the EVo owners is on this board...I will save him the humiliation and keep his name quiet.
After watching the MR's run around the track I am convinced that they really don't handle all that great. They both almost crashed going into turns...yeah I have it on film. The cars pushed through the corners. Where is that great handling?
oh yeah...the Camaro driver was a female.
One more thing......go onto the STi boards.......you won't hear or see one thread about the EVO. They don't complain about them or talk"junk"...like I see here all the time. All this board seems to do is whine about STi's....why?
After watching the MR's run around the track I am convinced that they really don't handle all that great. They both almost crashed going into turns...yeah I have it on film. The cars pushed through the corners. Where is that great handling?
oh yeah...the Camaro driver was a female.
One more thing......go onto the STi boards.......you won't hear or see one thread about the EVO. They don't complain about them or talk"junk"...like I see here all the time. All this board seems to do is whine about STi's....why?
May 30, 2005, 06:36 PM
#44
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Phx,AZ
Posts: 1,209
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
[QUOTE=Titleist71]hmmm......I don't want to egg on the stupid EVO/STi battle but........the EVo is hundreths or thousandths of a second faster than a STi in many tests I've seen. Big deal....but you know what....it only happened because a computer is controlling the handling. Thats sad. If you can't drive a car, drive a EVO. I watched something funny lastnight, actually I videotaped it. 2 MR's raced at a demolition derby. They competed in a "Spectator Drag Race" which was one lap oval drag racing. Winner advances. The 1st MR got beat by a 97+ Camaro...stock. The second MR won the event..but got his car destroyed in the process. The back bumper got smashed, and he now blows bluish/yellow smoke.......whata smart EVO owner...typical. I would post the video but I don't have the program to download it to my computer. One of the EVo owners is on this board...I will save him the humiliation and keep his name quiet.
After watching the MR's run around the track I am convinced that they really don't handle all that great. They both almost crashed going into turns...yeah I have it on film. The cars pushed through the corners. Where is that great handling?
oh yeah...the Camaro driver was a female.
One more thing......go onto the STi boards.......you won't hear or see one thread about the EVO. They don't complain about them or talk"junk"...like I see here all
the time. All this board seems to do is whine about STi's....why?[/QUOT
"EVO
sti"
After watching the MR's run around the track I am convinced that they really don't handle all that great. They both almost crashed going into turns...yeah I have it on film. The cars pushed through the corners. Where is that great handling?
oh yeah...the Camaro driver was a female.
One more thing......go onto the STi boards.......you won't hear or see one thread about the EVO. They don't complain about them or talk"junk"...like I see here all
the time. All this board seems to do is whine about STi's....why?[/QUOT
"EVO
sti"
May 30, 2005, 06:47 PM
#45
Newbie
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Western Colorado
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The difference between the two is minute. Having driven both, I picked the Evo, but I wouldn't slight anyone for getting an STi (especially since an MR costs about $3000 more).