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4 door vehicles that can match the EVOs all around performance???

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Old Jun 23, 2005, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 3000ways
Try shutting the f*ck up newbie, 230WHP on what dyno? I'm talking dynojet and most EVOs dyno higher than that on a dynojet. Even using your very low 230WHP numbers, the EVO loses more to the wheels due to AWD, so engine power is right around 300HP

3000ways...how about you drop your hostility....the newbie is right...most EVO's bone stock dyno between 220 and 250.....you don't even have an EVO......and you talk like you invented them......
Old Jun 23, 2005, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Gmanigio
How about an Audi S4, looks soo much better than an evo. Luxary, speed, brakes, power, suspension, and a hefty price tag, but u get what you pay for.
It's not as quick but if you want nice, comfortable, stable cruising...you got it with an S4. I had a 2001 S4 and I could cruise at 120 mph all day, and at 145 mph the speedometer was still rising rapidly. I ran out of room, not speed. An EVO handles better but don't underestimate the biturbo 6 cylinder S4.
Old Jun 23, 2005, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Rez90
3000ways...how about you drop your hostility....the newbie is right...most EVO's bone stock dyno between 220 and 250.....you don't even have an EVO......and you talk like you invented them......
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I'm the one with hostility, re-read your post buddy. Look I have no problem with people expressing their opinions, that is the god given right. Still if you express that opinion and provide absolutely nothing to back up your claims, then hey it's my god given right to call you out on that sh*t. Somebody says something is not possible, tell me why, don't just tell me it's impossible. Too many newbies do this crap, eventually they learn.

hotrod2448 typed this-

Every dyno reads differently even the same brand of dyno. All that number is is a reference. Personally I think the 217whp is more accurate than 240whp. Hell with a catback reflash and retarded factory cams I was only making 252 on the dyno here. I'm sure I could put my car on whatever dyno your talking about and have it put up 300 whp. But, I'm not really making anymore power it just reads different. Maybe yours is a really high reading dyno to make people feel better about their numbers.

Wow such a good response, that clearly states his opinion and reasons for this, and I respond back to him in a respectful manner. Your right I do not own an EVO, and I also do not play for the LA Lakers but I can sit down and talk hours upon hours about them.

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Old Jun 23, 2005, 07:19 AM
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The 03/04 models were likely around 275 HP at the crank (220 WHP) where as the 05's are at around 300 HP at the crank (~240 WHP) and I can believe this by the consistant 13.0x @ 105 runs I made on the car bone stock. For the price there are very few cars that match the Evo's all around performance but the STi does come close.
Old Jun 23, 2005, 07:34 AM
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Let me explain something to everyone. I am not trying to be a smart a$$ but I don't see how AMG, S60R, BMW M Power, V and all that $****.... How you guys view it stock. There is nothing stock about these cars. All and every car that is made by those companies are after market things but with warranty. Like the FQ-400. I hate it when people say, yeahhh I got a stock AMG... what the hell man, AMG is aside from Mercedes, they are a performance shop and they get speciall tuning. Look at this I spent $30K on my car and $2000 in parts. Last time I was at the track I ran 11.9 and my car is a freaking beast on the track not to mention on the Highway. I don't have any problems with any of the car mentioned here.

I believe a fare comparisson would be the FQ Evos Try matching anything agaisnt those sweet cars... But once again we are very blessed to be driving EVOs, the only car in the world that is so cheap and with the right tuning can school any car in the world. We didn't have to sell our life, underware, the shirts of our back to get a super car.
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Old Jun 23, 2005, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by _007
Look at this I spent $30K on my car and $2000 in parts. Last time I was at the track I ran 11.9 and my car is a freaking beast on the track not to mention on the Highway. I don't have any problems with any of the car mentioned here.
what are your $2k in mods that got you into the 11's?
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Originally Posted by Gmanigio
They dont have 300HP, the only horsepower that counts in my book is WHP and its far from 300, try 230WHP or so stock.
I'm pretty sure it's more like 250 stock.
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Originally Posted by SterlingEvo
Well, stock for stock an AMG E55 will beat the Evo in real life acceleration - especially at highway speeds, but at nearly 3 times the price (over $80k) and with 470hp and over 500lb/ft. A local guy ran a 12.1 stock Also, they are low 4's for 0-60 and brake 60-0 less than 120ft... It's the "rich man's Evo"

I'm sure the Evo slaloms and tracks much better, though, as the E55 weighs in at over 2 tons...

Also, the new m5 will be sporting 500hp...
DOESNT THAT Guy run like mid to low 11's now?
Old Jun 23, 2005, 08:16 AM
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umm, back to the topic:
how about the Galant VR-4, kinda rare nowadays, but a beast when tuned. I ran against one in my friends Volvo 740 Turbo, and got beat. He was laying down at least 350 whp and had a full leather interior, now that is a great package.
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Originally Posted by HiHeatEVO
what are your $2k in mods that got you into the 11's?
1 - MBC
2 - Fuel Pump
3 - Cone K&N
4 - Cams
5 - FMI and Lower Pipe
6 - 10.5 hotside and o2 housing
7 - DYNOFLASH !!!!!!!!!

I got all the parts from my buddys shop so not that bad. around $2100. The car is a monster. Right now I am getting the new Rabbit turbo upgrade. I seen people do something like 375 whp without cams and no FMIC. Should be interesting after that upgrade.
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Originally Posted by HiHeatEVO
what are your $2k in mods that got you into the 11's?
good question. i was wondering myself. possibly exhaust $600-700, mbc $100, cams $500, nitrous $500, flash $200. this might get you there, but i'm not sure.
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Originally Posted by _007
1 - MBC
2 - Fuel Pump
3 - Cone K&N
4 - Cams
5 - FMI and Lower Pipe
6 - 10.5 hotside and o2 housing
7 - DYNOFLASH !!!!!!!!!

I got all the parts from my buddys shop so not that bad. around $2100. The car is a monster. Right now I am getting the new Rabbit turbo upgrade. I seen people do something like 375 whp without cams and no FMIC. Should be interesting after that upgrade.
no exhaust?
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good call on the VR4, but you opened up a whole can of worms if we are includng cars from years past. and obviously the price of a used car wouldn't compare to anything new. audi's are very nice and so is the caddy. i would own either for a daily driver. did someone mention the STI. j/k. READ the other's post before you post, or at least the first one.



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