Have anyone run into the 10's with $5000
Jul 5, 2005, 08:01 AM
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I don't think there is any reason to gut/trash a perfectly good 2003+ evo just to hit a 10.
nor is there any need to do anything stupid like run without boost control, or tune it for one run wonder.
3400lb car needs atleast 450whp and ideal traction/driving to get 10.9 @ 125
This can be done safely, at full weight, repeatedly, and without damage to the car.
The EMS/full Exhaust/boost at 25psi on racegas has made 350whp for many evo guys already. Add the 100shot of nitrous and you are at the power goal for a realistic 10 second car. remember..nitrous cars et better than turbo only cars becuase of the better powerband.
you need traction. drag radials and clutch.
At full retail price for the parts off my website:
EMS $1789 with 3.5 bar map and ait sensors
AEM wideband $350
ACT clutch $525
NOS single fogger kit @ 100-125hp $525
walbro 255 $105
Tial bov $225
Hallman ES MBC $60
245 45 17 BFG drag radials ~$600 4 X $149.90 from summit racing
3" VRS turboback exhaust $650 aluminized steel, mandrel bent
$4829 total retail price.
IMHO the installation and tuning is never included in any kind of $ vs ET deal.
you don't need FMIC, ic pipes, intake pipe, injectors, turbo upgrade. Those items do not yeald as much of a power increase for what they cost retail.
Ill try and get back to the track this friday if I have time to change the clutch this week and take a crack at atleast running the bigger nitrous shot. I don't have time/$ to do the drag radials so will have to make due with kumho asx all seasons.
Will everyone be satisfied with say a 11.2 @ 123 without the good tires?
nor is there any need to do anything stupid like run without boost control, or tune it for one run wonder.
3400lb car needs atleast 450whp and ideal traction/driving to get 10.9 @ 125
This can be done safely, at full weight, repeatedly, and without damage to the car.
The EMS/full Exhaust/boost at 25psi on racegas has made 350whp for many evo guys already. Add the 100shot of nitrous and you are at the power goal for a realistic 10 second car. remember..nitrous cars et better than turbo only cars becuase of the better powerband.
you need traction. drag radials and clutch.
At full retail price for the parts off my website:
EMS $1789 with 3.5 bar map and ait sensors
AEM wideband $350
ACT clutch $525
NOS single fogger kit @ 100-125hp $525
walbro 255 $105
Tial bov $225
Hallman ES MBC $60
245 45 17 BFG drag radials ~$600 4 X $149.90 from summit racing
3" VRS turboback exhaust $650 aluminized steel, mandrel bent
$4829 total retail price.
IMHO the installation and tuning is never included in any kind of $ vs ET deal.
you don't need FMIC, ic pipes, intake pipe, injectors, turbo upgrade. Those items do not yeald as much of a power increase for what they cost retail.
Ill try and get back to the track this friday if I have time to change the clutch this week and take a crack at atleast running the bigger nitrous shot. I don't have time/$ to do the drag radials so will have to make due with kumho asx all seasons.
Will everyone be satisfied with say a 11.2 @ 123 without the good tires?
Jul 5, 2005, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DSMotorsport
I don't think there is any reason to gut/trash a perfectly good 2003+ evo just to hit a 10.
nor is there any need to do anything stupid like run without boost control, or tune it for one run wonder.
3400lb car needs atleast 450whp and ideal traction/driving to get 10.9 @ 125
This can be done safely, at full weight, repeatedly, and without damage to the car.
The EMS/full Exhaust/boost at 25psi on racegas has made 350whp for many evo guys already. Add the 100shot of nitrous and you are at the power goal for a realistic 10 second car. remember..nitrous cars et better than turbo only cars becuase of the better powerband.
you need traction. drag radials and clutch.
At full retail price for the parts off my website:
EMS $1789 with 3.5 bar map and ait sensors
AEM wideband $350
ACT clutch $525
NOS single fogger kit @ 100-125hp $525
walbro 255 $105
Tial bov $225
Hallman ES MBC $60
245 45 17 BFG drag radials ~$600 4 X $149.90 from summit racing
3" VRS turboback exhaust $650 aluminized steel, mandrel bent
$4829 total retail price.
IMHO the installation and tuning is never included in any kind of $ vs ET deal.
you don't need FMIC, ic pipes, intake pipe, injectors, turbo upgrade. Those items do not yeald as much of a power increase for what they cost retail.
Ill try and get back to the track this friday if I have time to change the clutch this week and take a crack at atleast running the bigger nitrous shot. I don't have time/$ to do the drag radials so will have to make due with kumho asx all seasons.
Will everyone be satisfied with say a 11.2 @ 123 without the good tires?
nor is there any need to do anything stupid like run without boost control, or tune it for one run wonder.
3400lb car needs atleast 450whp and ideal traction/driving to get 10.9 @ 125
This can be done safely, at full weight, repeatedly, and without damage to the car.
The EMS/full Exhaust/boost at 25psi on racegas has made 350whp for many evo guys already. Add the 100shot of nitrous and you are at the power goal for a realistic 10 second car. remember..nitrous cars et better than turbo only cars becuase of the better powerband.
you need traction. drag radials and clutch.
At full retail price for the parts off my website:
EMS $1789 with 3.5 bar map and ait sensors
AEM wideband $350
ACT clutch $525
NOS single fogger kit @ 100-125hp $525
walbro 255 $105
Tial bov $225
Hallman ES MBC $60
245 45 17 BFG drag radials ~$600 4 X $149.90 from summit racing
3" VRS turboback exhaust $650 aluminized steel, mandrel bent
$4829 total retail price.
IMHO the installation and tuning is never included in any kind of $ vs ET deal.
you don't need FMIC, ic pipes, intake pipe, injectors, turbo upgrade. Those items do not yeald as much of a power increase for what they cost retail.
Ill try and get back to the track this friday if I have time to change the clutch this week and take a crack at atleast running the bigger nitrous shot. I don't have time/$ to do the drag radials so will have to make due with kumho asx all seasons.
Will everyone be satisfied with say a 11.2 @ 123 without the good tires?
Not to sound sarcastic but the title to this thread was, "has anyone run 10's with $5000". Take a stock evo and you have 5K.........that will get you into the 11's. The cost of install and tuning should be averaged into the formula b/c your "average joe" is not able to tune an ems, or install cams and the like. Good luck on your run btw!
Jul 5, 2005, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by HwangTKD
Not to sound sarcastic but the title to this thread was, "has anyone run 10's with $5000". Take a stock evo and you have 5K.........that will get you into the 11's. The cost of install and tuning should be averaged into the formula b/c your "average joe" is not able to tune an ems, or install cams and the like. Good luck on your run btw!
but if your going to include the cost of install and tuning. then the question really should be "Can EVERYONE go 10's with $5000".
The question was more about...it it possible to do this with $5000? The question was not...can this be done by the average joe with no experience?
if you have to factor in labor and tuning time...then the answer is absolutly no, never, nitrous or not.
Jul 5, 2005, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ru4real
If you want to run your 10.X at a dragstrip, don't forget the mandatory roll cage, unless you want to get thrown out after one pass.
SFI scattershield
SFI wheel studs
Proban fire jacket
5pt harness
rollbar padding
metal tire valve stems
Jul 5, 2005, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by burningmoney97
all you need is 1 pass to prove it. thats all fromWRXtoEVO wants
and if you get in on a track rental, sometimes, they will let it slide all day since it's not a competition event and there are only a few cars there.
Sep 3, 2005, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DSMotorsport
Well when you look at it like that "has ANYONE" done it...well Im pretty sure I can and will. Give me the stock evo8 and $5000...I will produce a 10 second slip.
03 Yellow Evolution
11.5 @ 118.8 1.575 60'
119.9 MPH on 112 octane
115.4 MPH on 93 octane
03 Yellow Evolution
11.5 @ 118.8 1.575 60'
119.9 MPH on 112 octane
115.4 MPH on 93 octane
I also wanted to say GREAT 60 ft. man!!! Very impressive.
What are your mods done to the car to reach these times?
Sep 5, 2005, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DSMotorsport
you don't need FMIC, ic pipes, intake pipe, injectors, turbo upgrade. Those items do not yeald as much of a power increase for what they cost retail.
Sep 5, 2005, 07:41 PM
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DSM...your a big fan of nitrous Im assuming. How many passes have you made so far with nitrous? Eveyone on this board seems to be against nitrous....why? What do you think about that?
As far as the 10.9 for 5K....Whats the point? If you want to run a 10.9, spend the money to do it so that its repeatable and safe. If you want to do a 10.9 for 5K go buy a bike!
As far as the 10.9 for 5K....Whats the point? If you want to run a 10.9, spend the money to do it so that its repeatable and safe. If you want to do a 10.9 for 5K go buy a bike!
Sep 5, 2005, 08:00 PM
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You can do it if you get free labor on custom fab...Drops the prices on thigs like exhuast, mani, IC piping, etc... DRAMATICALLY..
If you can tune yourself (and you should be able to if you want a 10 sec car) then you're also going to save an assload of money
If you can tune yourself (and you should be able to if you want a 10 sec car) then you're also going to save an assload of money
Sep 10, 2005, 08:35 AM
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i spent less then 5500
i will let you know what time i ran
used turbo sc61 500.00
helix full ex 400.00
680 inj 120.00
aem 1100.00
spec clutch 600.00
manifold from machv 600.00
280 cams 600.00
fuel pump 85.00
aem wide band 330.00
tuning 400.00
alk kit 600.00
5485 total cost
running 10.99 sec in the 1/4 priceless
used turbo sc61 500.00
helix full ex 400.00
680 inj 120.00
aem 1100.00
spec clutch 600.00
manifold from machv 600.00
280 cams 600.00
fuel pump 85.00
aem wide band 330.00
tuning 400.00
alk kit 600.00
5485 total cost
running 10.99 sec in the 1/4 priceless
Last edited by gsxturbo60; Sep 10, 2005 at 08:40 AM.