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Old Sep 11, 2005, 08:49 AM
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LIquid to Air or AIR to AIR

I was looking at the turbotrix evo and really like the way the liquid to air intercooler barrel looked in the engine bay. However a local shop of mine told me that and AIR to AIR was optimal for an Evo, Does anyone have any experience with thia? Also I am ideally looking to gain about 450 to 500 at the wheels for my daily driving EVO.

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Old Sep 11, 2005, 03:19 PM
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liquid to air is a lotta work, you have to put in a whole liquid cooling system (you don't just hook it up to your radiator). that compared to just bolting on an intercooler... that's a night and day difference in difficulty.
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liquid to air intercoolers are much more effective when compared to air to air, they can really really cool the air a lot more than a air to air. Like someone said before it is a lot more work to make one work on the evo, as compared top unbolting the bumper, taking of the clamps and the 3-4 screws and taking the stock intercooler off and replacing it with an aftermarket one, and an air to air should be good enough for what u are expecting to achieve 500hp.
Old Sep 11, 2005, 03:31 PM
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I see both yor points however my sponsor has the capability to make the pipeing for the PWR universal kit and has already installed one in their turbo MR2. Basically I was just wondering if their was a reason not to use the liquid to AIR?
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If you don't mind the extra work, liquid works better. If you want to get real cold liquid for a long term for like street or auto-x, you can use your ac system to chill it down, of course, you wouldn't be able to keep the cabin cool then. ;(
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Originally Posted by BMan
If you don't mind the extra work, liquid works better. If you want to get real cold liquid for a long term for like street or auto-x, you can use your ac system to chill it down, of course, you wouldn't be able to keep the cabin cool then. ;(
I have an automatic valve in my system that allows me to us the A/C to cool the liquid or with a flip of a switch it blows into the cabin.
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^would you lose any power by doing this...since the a/c comp would be running?
jus wondering
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Originally Posted by 11secEVO7
^would you lose any power by doing this...since the a/c comp would be running?
jus wondering
It's minimal.

Right before a 1/4 mile run you fire up the A/C to super cool the liquid in the intercooler. Then, once desired temps are reached, the A/C is turned off.

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Originally Posted by 3240
I have an automatic valve in my system that allows me to us the A/C to cool the liquid or with a flip of a switch it blows into the cabin.
Has your car ever made a 1/4 mile pass yet? Most people just use a resevoir tank and dump ice in it to bring the AIC below ambient.

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Old Sep 11, 2005, 05:41 PM
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The liquid to air ,, imho would not be optimal for a daily driver. They normally run a radiator for it with a fan of some sort.. We obvioulsy dont have that, but we run ice right before we run. Our inlet temps start off about 40deg ..and see about 100 through the traps ..

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Originally Posted by Jasil
Has your car ever made a 1/4 mile pass yet? Most people just use a resevoir tank and dump ice in it to bring the AIC below ambient.
Just trying to be different. Yes, you can also dump ice into a resevoir tank. The car is being put on a dyno on Monday and will run this week if all goes well. We just finished everything.
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Drag racing = air to water.

Daily driving = air to air.
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We have several cars that run both on the street. When at the track they flip a switch to turn the Ice bath on.
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Originally Posted by mooreboost
Drag racing = air to water.

Daily driving = air to air.
Probably the best way to break it down in less than 10000000 words.




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