Track story - MSR Texas (lapping Ferarri 360 Stradalle and Lambo Gallardo)
Sep 24, 2005, 10:31 AM
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I wish I would have known about this day. I would have been out there if I could have.
MSR is a great track and there are always nice exotics out there. There are quite a bit of people here in DFW that buy the exotics and think that having a Ferrari turns you into Michael Schummacher and the car does all the work. I was out there about a month ago and it was my first time on a track. I was doing okay and I was still keeping up with the Ruf Porsches and 360 CS, etc that were out there. The EVO is a great track car and my suspension is still stock, and I'm not that good of a driver.
The original poster is a good driver, and was thus able to beat them. Good job man
MSR is a great track and there are always nice exotics out there. There are quite a bit of people here in DFW that buy the exotics and think that having a Ferrari turns you into Michael Schummacher and the car does all the work. I was out there about a month ago and it was my first time on a track. I was doing okay and I was still keeping up with the Ruf Porsches and 360 CS, etc that were out there. The EVO is a great track car and my suspension is still stock, and I'm not that good of a driver.
The original poster is a good driver, and was thus able to beat them. Good job man
Sep 24, 2005, 10:45 AM
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I totally believe this guy... here's a similar occurance...
http://www.norcalevo.net/forums/view...r=asc&start=45
http://www.norcalevo.net/forums/view...r=asc&start=45
Sep 24, 2005, 10:46 AM
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It's funny when people underestimate the Evo, especially a modded MR. It's also funny when people look at numbers on paper and say "No way can X beat X!" but the reality is that the Evo was also built to compete also -- in ANY conditions. It's just a major plus that it does well on tarmac too. And especially in the hands of a great driver, it's as good as almost _any_ production car. Congrats on the consistently great racing!
+1 hurry up on the vids
If you post them on StreetFire.net, they'd be very popular!
+1 hurry up on the vids
If you post them on StreetFire.net, they'd be very popular!
Sep 24, 2005, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jasil
Repeat after me it's 90% driver. Great job and I'm sure great driving too, but let's be a realist here. Where is the EVO at on Nurburgring?
Look at OLA where was the EVO during that event? I'm not talking final standings because they did have a few problems. I'm just talking lap times where the car was healthy.
Here is a link to the OLA website and click on history in the top left corner go to 2005 OneLapofAmerica. Look at the times for Danny Popp in a heads/cam Z06 with race suspension and then go look at AMS's EVO and it's times. That car has just about every mod you can put on a EVO and had a good driver too. The difference on most tracks was 10-30 seconds that is huge on a roadcourse.
http://www.onelapofamerica.com/
Look at OLA where was the EVO during that event? I'm not talking final standings because they did have a few problems. I'm just talking lap times where the car was healthy.
Here is a link to the OLA website and click on history in the top left corner go to 2005 OneLapofAmerica. Look at the times for Danny Popp in a heads/cam Z06 with race suspension and then go look at AMS's EVO and it's times. That car has just about every mod you can put on a EVO and had a good driver too. The difference on most tracks was 10-30 seconds that is huge on a roadcourse.
http://www.onelapofamerica.com/
Sep 24, 2005, 04:27 PM
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Too bad you have a non-standard format camera. My buddy is a video freak, has some kind of a studio at home and could transfer anything from MiniDV but it seems this format was abandoned by Sony some time ago..
Sep 24, 2005, 04:47 PM
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See the thing is, yes the evo may be fast on track but off the track as far as looks and every day normal crusing and comfort, its not a ferrari at all. yes the CS is a track car of the 360 but its still a 360 which isnt designed for track. We all known the enzo which isnt completely designed for that track, well for about 50-90k you can get an ariel atom which pretty much keeps up with enzo and would destroy your evo around the track but thats just because what its designed for. As far as daily driveing the atom would obvously be unfomertable and noisy and not particularly sexy. Oh and as for your comment about top gear with evo vs lambo, that wasnt a gallardo, that was a murcelago. haha but besides what iv just said, id still be very proud to go ground a track vs one of them and go home a winner. congrats
Sep 24, 2005, 09:01 PM
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actually MSR is not a very small track. right now it is a little less then 2 miles around, but they are building the expansion which will make it one of the longest tracks in america at 3.4 miles all the way around, or two sections of smaller size.
Sep 24, 2005, 10:30 PM
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The real point is how my EVO MR competes and wins against super exotics! I mean, $43,000 MR (counting upgrades) against the Ferarri who was on race tires.
Once you get up towards the instructor ranks, driver skill starts to level out and you can start to judge the relative performance of the cars. When I was an intermediate/advanced student, I used to "kill" big ticket machinery in my lowly 318is. Now that I'm an instructor, it's not quite so easy. The same way we spend thousands modding our Evos...they spend thousands modding their GT3's. I love the Evo, too, but let's not lose sight of reality.
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Sep 25, 2005, 01:18 AM
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I love the EVO too, I'm just saying that I have a hard time believing that he was smoking a CS on the track. Unless the CS has very little driving experience, he should still be able to run a time as good if not better than an EVO. The CS is Ferrari's bread and butter track car.
Sep 25, 2005, 07:36 AM
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I love the EVO too, I'm just saying that I have a hard time believing that he was smoking a CS on the track. Unless the CS has very little driving experience, he should still be able to run a time as good if not better than an EVO. The CS is Ferrari's bread and butter track car.
My point wasn't that this guy is lying. All I'm saying is that, until you get to the instructor ranks, the driving skill is HIGHLY variable. Just because your Evo "smoked" a 360 CS...that doesn't mean that Evos are faster than Ferraris. If I step down into the advanced/solo group at a typical BMW or Porsche event, I can pass just about everyone with my 318is track car (or my Evo on street tires). So what? That doesn't prove anything.
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Sep 26, 2005, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Kayaalp
If I step down into the advanced/solo group at a typical BMW or Porsche event, I can pass just about everyone with my 318is track car (or my Evo on street tires). So what? That doesn't prove anything.
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