EVO 8 VS EVO 9 dyno charts from Buschur Racing
Oct 13, 2005, 09:12 AM
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EVO 8 VS EVO 9 dyno charts from Buschur Racing
Here you go guys.
This is a 2005 EVO8 VS a 2006 EVO9 chart. Virtually the same. I don't see any gains in power or anything magical about the 9's.
The power from what I see is basically the same, which is slightly disapointing.
It's good for those of us that already own EVO 8's as we don't have to drop what we have right away and rush out for a new model.
We have dyno'd TWO new EVO9's and the power was the same on both, so this one particular car isn't just weak.
Thanks for reading,
David Buschur
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Oct 13, 2005, 09:24 AM
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Why are those numbers sooooo low? Is that dyno calibrated right? 210, 208 even on a mustang dyno those seem low? But still another baseline for the 8 vs. 9 guys.
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Buschur Racing Mustang Dyno shows the lowest DYNO #'s. If you would of Dyno the same cars over a DynoJet Dyno your numbers will be like 230-240's whp. I know several people at the DSM shootout this year ,they had dyno their evos on different dynos with higher whp results and whey they dyno at Buschur Racing they got lower numbers, anywhere from 50-100whp loss on the Buschur Racing Mustang Dyno. Your numbers will not be the same unless u dyno at the same dyno place.
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Oct 13, 2005, 09:53 AM
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The base numbers are in light blue and red, those are the EVO8.
Why are my numbers so low? Well, this is a real dyno to be honest. It isn't just a set of rollers that spin around and put miles on your car
The software I am sure uses different calibrations and gives different numbers. My MD dyno has also NOT been manipulated in anyway to spit out higher numbers, many MD owners change some parameters to make the power higher and match dynojets more closely. I left the dyno set up and calibrated exactly as it was delivered.
Some dyno's will spit out 600 whp figures and then the cars can't break 130 mph trap speeds. Something is wrong there, biggest factor in my opinion after owning a dynojet for many years is the tune is off, so what you are getting for a tune on an inertia dyno isn't the
same thing the car needs to run correctly on the track.
Our black EVO on our dyno has only made in the 525 range for whp. The car has however ran 10.12 at 141 mph. Our red EVO which is full weight minus the front bumper beam and we have swapped in a 15 gallon fuel cell, which we run full, has run a best of 10.94 at 135 mph, this was on the stock Advan tires. This red EVO has also put down only about 530 whp on our dyno.
For further perspective an EVO making only 300 whp on our dyno with a good driver will run in the 11.7 second range.
My personal RS has made only 330 whp on our dyno and run a best ET of 11.30 and best mph of 124 mph.
The numbers when baselining for improvements on parts are really not critical. Start with 200 or start with 300, when you gain you gain. Having numbers that are just rediculously high and a car that is slow is just..........embarrassing. This is the case with many.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
Why are my numbers so low? Well, this is a real dyno to be honest. It isn't just a set of rollers that spin around and put miles on your car
The software I am sure uses different calibrations and gives different numbers. My MD dyno has also NOT been manipulated in anyway to spit out higher numbers, many MD owners change some parameters to make the power higher and match dynojets more closely. I left the dyno set up and calibrated exactly as it was delivered.Some dyno's will spit out 600 whp figures and then the cars can't break 130 mph trap speeds. Something is wrong there, biggest factor in my opinion after owning a dynojet for many years is the tune is off, so what you are getting for a tune on an inertia dyno isn't the
same thing the car needs to run correctly on the track.
Our black EVO on our dyno has only made in the 525 range for whp. The car has however ran 10.12 at 141 mph. Our red EVO which is full weight minus the front bumper beam and we have swapped in a 15 gallon fuel cell, which we run full, has run a best of 10.94 at 135 mph, this was on the stock Advan tires. This red EVO has also put down only about 530 whp on our dyno.
For further perspective an EVO making only 300 whp on our dyno with a good driver will run in the 11.7 second range.
My personal RS has made only 330 whp on our dyno and run a best ET of 11.30 and best mph of 124 mph.
The numbers when baselining for improvements on parts are really not critical. Start with 200 or start with 300, when you gain you gain. Having numbers that are just rediculously high and a car that is slow is just..........embarrassing. This is the case with many.
David Buschur
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Oct 13, 2005, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
The base numbers are in light blue and red, those are the EVO8.
Why are my numbers so low? Well, this is a real dyno to be honest. It isn't just a set of rollers that spin around and put miles on your car The software I am sure uses different calibrations and gives different numbers. My MD dyno has also NOT been manipulated in anyway to spit out higher numbers, many MD owners change some parameters to make the power higher and match dynojets more closely. I left the dyno set up and calibrated exactly as it was delivered.
Some dyno's will spit out 600 whp figures and then the cars can't break 130 mph trap speeds. Something is wrong there, biggest factor in my opinion after owning a dynojet for many years is the tune is off, so what you are getting for a tune on an inertia dyno isn't the
same thing the car needs to run correctly on the track.
Our black EVO on our dyno has only made in the 525 range for whp. The car has however ran 10.12 at 141 mph. Our red EVO which is full weight minus the front bumper beam and we have swapped in a 15 gallon fuel cell, which we run full, has run a best of 10.94 at 135 mph, this was on the stock Advan tires. This red EVO has also put down only about 530 whp on our dyno.
For further perspective an EVO making only 300 whp on our dyno with a good driver will run in the 11.7 second range.
My personal RS has made only 330 whp on our dyno and run a best ET of 11.30 and best mph of 124 mph.
The numbers when baselining for improvements on parts are really not critical. Start with 200 or start with 300, when you gain you gain. Having numbers that are just rediculously high and a car that is slow is just..........embarrassing. This is the case with many.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
Why are my numbers so low? Well, this is a real dyno to be honest. It isn't just a set of rollers that spin around and put miles on your car
The software I am sure uses different calibrations and gives different numbers. My MD dyno has also NOT been manipulated in anyway to spit out higher numbers, many MD owners change some parameters to make the power higher and match dynojets more closely. I left the dyno set up and calibrated exactly as it was delivered.Some dyno's will spit out 600 whp figures and then the cars can't break 130 mph trap speeds. Something is wrong there, biggest factor in my opinion after owning a dynojet for many years is the tune is off, so what you are getting for a tune on an inertia dyno isn't the
same thing the car needs to run correctly on the track.
Our black EVO on our dyno has only made in the 525 range for whp. The car has however ran 10.12 at 141 mph. Our red EVO which is full weight minus the front bumper beam and we have swapped in a 15 gallon fuel cell, which we run full, has run a best of 10.94 at 135 mph, this was on the stock Advan tires. This red EVO has also put down only about 530 whp on our dyno.
For further perspective an EVO making only 300 whp on our dyno with a good driver will run in the 11.7 second range.
My personal RS has made only 330 whp on our dyno and run a best ET of 11.30 and best mph of 124 mph.
The numbers when baselining for improvements on parts are really not critical. Start with 200 or start with 300, when you gain you gain. Having numbers that are just rediculously high and a car that is slow is just..........embarrassing. This is the case with many.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
That said it is a little dissapointing seing no real improvement power wise from the 8 to the 9. I would figure the Mivec and the revised turbo would help it out more than it has.
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Having numbers that are just rediculously high and a car that is slow is just..........embarrassing. This is the case with many.
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Of course the people who make your statement ring true are either in denial, or are embarrassed. "yeah...so what if I ran a 12.4....My dyno sheet says 400whp!"
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
The base numbers are in light blue and red, those are the EVO8.
Why are my numbers so low? Well, this is a real dyno to be honest. It isn't just a set of rollers that spin around and put miles on your car The software I am sure uses different calibrations and gives different numbers. My MD dyno has also NOT been manipulated in anyway to spit out higher numbers, many MD owners change some parameters to make the power higher and match dynojets more closely. I left the dyno set up and calibrated exactly as it was delivered.
Some dyno's will spit out 600 whp figures and then the cars can't break 130 mph trap speeds. Something is wrong there, biggest factor in my opinion after owning a dynojet for many years is the tune is off, so what you are getting for a tune on an inertia dyno isn't the
same thing the car needs to run correctly on the track.
Our black EVO on our dyno has only made in the 525 range for whp. The car has however ran 10.12 at 141 mph. Our red EVO which is full weight minus the front bumper beam and we have swapped in a 15 gallon fuel cell, which we run full, has run a best of 10.94 at 135 mph, this was on the stock Advan tires. This red EVO has also put down only about 530 whp on our dyno.
For further perspective an EVO making only 300 whp on our dyno with a good driver will run in the 11.7 second range.
My personal RS has made only 330 whp on our dyno and run a best ET of 11.30 and best mph of 124 mph.
The numbers when baselining for improvements on parts are really not critical. Start with 200 or start with 300, when you gain you gain. Having numbers that are just rediculously high and a car that is slow is just..........embarrassing. This is the case with many.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
Why are my numbers so low? Well, this is a real dyno to be honest. It isn't just a set of rollers that spin around and put miles on your car
The software I am sure uses different calibrations and gives different numbers. My MD dyno has also NOT been manipulated in anyway to spit out higher numbers, many MD owners change some parameters to make the power higher and match dynojets more closely. I left the dyno set up and calibrated exactly as it was delivered.Some dyno's will spit out 600 whp figures and then the cars can't break 130 mph trap speeds. Something is wrong there, biggest factor in my opinion after owning a dynojet for many years is the tune is off, so what you are getting for a tune on an inertia dyno isn't the
same thing the car needs to run correctly on the track.
Our black EVO on our dyno has only made in the 525 range for whp. The car has however ran 10.12 at 141 mph. Our red EVO which is full weight minus the front bumper beam and we have swapped in a 15 gallon fuel cell, which we run full, has run a best of 10.94 at 135 mph, this was on the stock Advan tires. This red EVO has also put down only about 530 whp on our dyno.
For further perspective an EVO making only 300 whp on our dyno with a good driver will run in the 11.7 second range.
My personal RS has made only 330 whp on our dyno and run a best ET of 11.30 and best mph of 124 mph.
The numbers when baselining for improvements on parts are really not critical. Start with 200 or start with 300, when you gain you gain. Having numbers that are just rediculously high and a car that is slow is just..........embarrassing. This is the case with many.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
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Thanks for the education! I guess the premier tuner shops ie: Lingenfelter(vettes), Hennessey(Vipers), and Evolution Motorsports(Porches) etc are doing it wrong. Also a 01 911 Turbo is making 415HP at the flywheel from Porche and are only trapping 115-117mph, these cars dyno on a Dynojet 355-365awhp and this seems more reasonable, because this is the standard not the exception. Also EvoDave made 558 or so on the Dynojet and is running in the 130 range...I guess you like what you like and feel the way you do because you believe it is the best and that is good, but not every one agrees with you. Lastly, 330 awhp on your dyno and you trap 124mph, most people who have C6 Corvettes, and 03-04 Cobras make 390-400flywheel, and 330-350 on the dynojets and are not running any where near your 124mph? So your numbers are low and you can tune off of them that should be the point, not bashing the standard in the industry, Dynojet, not Dynojunk(how you reffered to it).
Originally Posted by davidbuschur
The base numbers are in light blue and red, those are the EVO8.
Why are my numbers so low? Well, this is a real dyno to be honest. It isn't just a set of rollers that spin around and put miles on your car The software I am sure uses different calibrations and gives different numbers. My MD dyno has also NOT been manipulated in anyway to spit out higher numbers, many MD owners change some parameters to make the power higher and match dynojets more closely. I left the dyno set up and calibrated exactly as it was delivered.
Some dyno's will spit out 600 whp figures and then the cars can't break 130 mph trap speeds. Something is wrong there, biggest factor in my opinion after owning a dynojet for many years is the tune is off, so what you are getting for a tune on an inertia dyno isn't the
same thing the car needs to run correctly on the track.
Our black EVO on our dyno has only made in the 525 range for whp. The car has however ran 10.12 at 141 mph. Our red EVO which is full weight minus the front bumper beam and we have swapped in a 15 gallon fuel cell, which we run full, has run a best of 10.94 at 135 mph, this was on the stock Advan tires. This red EVO has also put down only about 530 whp on our dyno.
For further perspective an EVO making only 300 whp on our dyno with a good driver will run in the 11.7 second range.
My personal RS has made only 330 whp on our dyno and run a best ET of 11.30 and best mph of 124 mph.
The numbers when baselining for improvements on parts are really not critical. Start with 200 or start with 300, when you gain you gain. Having numbers that are just rediculously high and a car that is slow is just..........embarrassing. This is the case with many.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
Why are my numbers so low? Well, this is a real dyno to be honest. It isn't just a set of rollers that spin around and put miles on your car
The software I am sure uses different calibrations and gives different numbers. My MD dyno has also NOT been manipulated in anyway to spit out higher numbers, many MD owners change some parameters to make the power higher and match dynojets more closely. I left the dyno set up and calibrated exactly as it was delivered.Some dyno's will spit out 600 whp figures and then the cars can't break 130 mph trap speeds. Something is wrong there, biggest factor in my opinion after owning a dynojet for many years is the tune is off, so what you are getting for a tune on an inertia dyno isn't the
same thing the car needs to run correctly on the track.
Our black EVO on our dyno has only made in the 525 range for whp. The car has however ran 10.12 at 141 mph. Our red EVO which is full weight minus the front bumper beam and we have swapped in a 15 gallon fuel cell, which we run full, has run a best of 10.94 at 135 mph, this was on the stock Advan tires. This red EVO has also put down only about 530 whp on our dyno.
For further perspective an EVO making only 300 whp on our dyno with a good driver will run in the 11.7 second range.
My personal RS has made only 330 whp on our dyno and run a best ET of 11.30 and best mph of 124 mph.
The numbers when baselining for improvements on parts are really not critical. Start with 200 or start with 300, when you gain you gain. Having numbers that are just rediculously high and a car that is slow is just..........embarrassing. This is the case with many.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
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