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Nov 25, 2005, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lazyfong
I wonder if the Kumbo Ecsta Asx is good enough for a chicago city winter. Reading this thread gives me 2nd thoughts now, what do you guys think?
DO NOT DO IT BRO........its the worst choice ever.....wisconsin winters cant be much different....it was a nerve wrecking 3 hour drive.....if your gonnaa get kumhos just write it on the side of your advans and save $400
Nov 25, 2005, 09:00 PM
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This is VERY much about the type of winter you have and the type of driving you're looking to do. I'm in Central Illinois and we basically have the same winter as Chicago with just a bit less snow.
If you're going to be driving in and on snow alot you may want more than the Continentals. I've worn them thru 2 winters and they work, don't get me wrong, but if you still have to be plenty careful. If you want more confidence in the slop get a better winter-rated tire.
If you're in an area with a true winter climate you're going to have 2 sets of tires - 2 sets of wheels can make this easier, btw, although more expensive, of course. If you auto-X you can keep your R-rated rubber on a set of wheels and swap the winters on when the season ends. Then you'll want your summer tires - and the Ecsta's are good for that - for the other 9 months of the year.
Again, the Conti-Extreme's WILL WORK you just still have to be a bit conservative. True winter tires will be better.
Yes, the first time an ABS system kicks in for any driver it should scare the crap out of them by how it feels and sounds. That's normal. Just remember, ice is still ice and stopping on it is VERY difficult. ABS doesn't equate to stops-on-ice! Start on the conservative side with your winter driving in your Evo and, when you feel OK about it, the conditions, etc. push the envelope a bit - turning a corner in a 4-wheel spin is fun but it's something to work up to not something to go after without knowing better the limits of the car in the environment it's in.
Hope this helps - Neal at TireRack and any reputable tire dealer with real experience can help discuss the virtues and liabilities of different tires in different conditions. It's really all about what you drive in/on and how you drive.
Good luck and have fun!
If you're going to be driving in and on snow alot you may want more than the Continentals. I've worn them thru 2 winters and they work, don't get me wrong, but if you still have to be plenty careful. If you want more confidence in the slop get a better winter-rated tire.
If you're in an area with a true winter climate you're going to have 2 sets of tires - 2 sets of wheels can make this easier, btw, although more expensive, of course. If you auto-X you can keep your R-rated rubber on a set of wheels and swap the winters on when the season ends. Then you'll want your summer tires - and the Ecsta's are good for that - for the other 9 months of the year.
Again, the Conti-Extreme's WILL WORK you just still have to be a bit conservative. True winter tires will be better.
Yes, the first time an ABS system kicks in for any driver it should scare the crap out of them by how it feels and sounds. That's normal. Just remember, ice is still ice and stopping on it is VERY difficult. ABS doesn't equate to stops-on-ice! Start on the conservative side with your winter driving in your Evo and, when you feel OK about it, the conditions, etc. push the envelope a bit - turning a corner in a 4-wheel spin is fun but it's something to work up to not something to go after without knowing better the limits of the car in the environment it's in.
Hope this helps - Neal at TireRack and any reputable tire dealer with real experience can help discuss the virtues and liabilities of different tires in different conditions. It's really all about what you drive in/on and how you drive.
Good luck and have fun!
Nov 25, 2005, 09:40 PM
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practice driving in snow would help too. go to a parking lot and screw around until you get a good feel for what the tires are going to do. then don't drive fast on snow and ice ever (on public roads). thats the number one rule unless you enjoy wrecking evos. i was able to drive my VW rabbit in snow without any problems with pirelli summer tires though 3 winters without a single problem of running off the road. the evo with AWD, ABS, should be able to do considerably better if driven right.
Nov 25, 2005, 09:42 PM
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I agree 110%. I don't go crazy with my Connie's so they work just like he KazzEvo8 said. More consistant aggressive driving in snow/slush needs a winter tire.
Originally Posted by KazzEvo8
This is VERY much about the type of winter you have and the type of driving you're looking to do. I'm in Central Illinois and we basically have the same winter as Chicago with just a bit less snow.
If you're going to be driving in and on snow alot you may want more than the Continentals. I've worn them thru 2 winters and they work, don't get me wrong, but if you still have to be plenty careful. If you want more confidence in the slop get a better winter-rated tire.
If you're in an area with a true winter climate you're going to have 2 sets of tires - 2 sets of wheels can make this easier, btw, although more expensive, of course. If you auto-X you can keep your R-rated rubber on a set of wheels and swap the winters on when the season ends. Then you'll want your summer tires - and the Ecsta's are good for that - for the other 9 months of the year.
Again, the Conti-Extreme's WILL WORK you just still have to be a bit conservative. True winter tires will be better.
Yes, the first time an ABS system kicks in for any driver it should scare the crap out of them by how it feels and sounds. That's normal. Just remember, ice is still ice and stopping on it is VERY difficult. ABS doesn't equate to stops-on-ice! Start on the conservative side with your winter driving in your Evo and, when you feel OK about it, the conditions, etc. push the envelope a bit - turning a corner in a 4-wheel spin is fun but it's something to work up to not something to go after without knowing better the limits of the car in the environment it's in.
Hope this helps - Neal at TireRack and any reputable tire dealer with real experience can help discuss the virtues and liabilities of different tires in different conditions. It's really all about what you drive in/on and how you drive.
Good luck and have fun!
If you're going to be driving in and on snow alot you may want more than the Continentals. I've worn them thru 2 winters and they work, don't get me wrong, but if you still have to be plenty careful. If you want more confidence in the slop get a better winter-rated tire.
If you're in an area with a true winter climate you're going to have 2 sets of tires - 2 sets of wheels can make this easier, btw, although more expensive, of course. If you auto-X you can keep your R-rated rubber on a set of wheels and swap the winters on when the season ends. Then you'll want your summer tires - and the Ecsta's are good for that - for the other 9 months of the year.
Again, the Conti-Extreme's WILL WORK you just still have to be a bit conservative. True winter tires will be better.
Yes, the first time an ABS system kicks in for any driver it should scare the crap out of them by how it feels and sounds. That's normal. Just remember, ice is still ice and stopping on it is VERY difficult. ABS doesn't equate to stops-on-ice! Start on the conservative side with your winter driving in your Evo and, when you feel OK about it, the conditions, etc. push the envelope a bit - turning a corner in a 4-wheel spin is fun but it's something to work up to not something to go after without knowing better the limits of the car in the environment it's in.
Hope this helps - Neal at TireRack and any reputable tire dealer with real experience can help discuss the virtues and liabilities of different tires in different conditions. It's really all about what you drive in/on and how you drive.
Good luck and have fun!
Nov 25, 2005, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by laakness
Yes, the ABS sounds like you are grinding gravel into sand 
It kicked in on me a couple of times today.
I have the Continental Extreme Contacts and I think they do quite well in the snow for all season tires. Got them when I bought the car based on Fireball's recommendation as well as EvoJo's.
I guess I don't feel the roads are bad enough long enough in Milwaukee to warrant full snow tires. Everything is plowed by the next morning if not while it's happening.
Glad you're ok Honni.
It kicked in on me a couple of times today.I have the Continental Extreme Contacts and I think they do quite well in the snow for all season tires. Got them when I bought the car based on Fireball's recommendation as well as EvoJo's.
I guess I don't feel the roads are bad enough long enough in Milwaukee to warrant full snow tires. Everything is plowed by the next morning if not while it's happening.
Glad you're ok Honni.
Nov 25, 2005, 10:18 PM
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Honesly, I think Evo w/ Winter tire is a little too much for the Chicago's weather. 6 inces or plus is rare in Chicago nowadays. Also the main reason I chose my Kumho ASX was the PRICE and Long Tread Life. Today, we had the first big snow(around 2-3 inches) and my EVO with ASX performed really well. I couldn't be happier. In addition, you should not drive fast on snow just because you have a Snow tire.
If you are faced with 6inches or more snow in regular basis, Snow tire is a Must.
If you are faced with 6inches or more snow in regular basis, Snow tire is a Must.
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Nov 25, 2005, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by evo4g63awd
the amish men does amuse me, but its glad to see that they were willing to help you out. glad your ok! just looking at the pictures from your accident makes me sick. Hope things go better for you!
Nov 25, 2005, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueBlurSTi
you should get some blizzaks, they work really well on ice and snow.
