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Old Jan 1, 2006, 09:20 PM
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Just post the results give us that much!
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The srt8 didn't run 12.5......it's a 4200lb car with 420hp. The car may have been modded though.
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Originally Posted by E. Haskell
The srt8 didn't run 12.5......it's a 4200lb car with 420hp. The car may have been modded though.
Go argue with the guy in the thread I posted. People need to remember that ET is really not important. What matters is the trap speed. If the SRT-8 can trap 111mph, then it can hit 12.5s with a great driver. You can go argue with the guy who hit a 12.56 in his stock SRT-8 in the thread I posted if you want.
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Originally Posted by E. Haskell
The srt8 didn't run 12.5......it's a 4200lb car with 420hp. The car may have been modded though.
It might be one of a kind but I was able to confirm those times by other sources/forums:

http://www.sonoranmusclecars.com/for...pic=2204&st=20

Anyway, if the guy ran in NJ with the cold weather and at sea level then there is a chance the guy actually made it.
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SRT-8 does run 12's ..
Old Jan 1, 2006, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
Evo MR wins in all contest.
nice
i will have to check out those articles
Old Jan 1, 2006, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
It might be one of a kind but I was able to confirm those times by other sources/forums:

http://www.sonoranmusclecars.com/for...pic=2204&st=20

Anyway, if the guy ran in NJ with the cold weather and at sea level then there is a chance the guy actually made it.
The thing you've got to consider is DA. The 12.56 was ran at Atco(I believe) and Atco can have a DA of -1000ft+ in the fall. Combine that with great temps and you get great mph and ET. While these are great times, I don't think they represent what the cars actually run.

Consider this: the Srt8 in stock form is good for 360-370rwhp and it has a curb weight of ~4160lbs. A stock 03/04 Cobra puts down about 10rwhp more and it's 400+ lbs lighter---the best stock Cobra time that I've ever heard of is 12.43 by Evan Smith. (only .07 faster )

Another example would be a '01/'02 fbody which has about 310-320rwhp in stock form----BUT they're ~700 lbs lighter than a 300c SRT8. How many stock fbodies have you seen running 12.3 - 12.5?

Anyway, while someone may have ran 12.5, I wouldn't consider it "the time" which 300c's run. It also seems kind of strange that someone in that particular test would just happen to run the best time EVER documented for a 300c
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. Believe me on this one, I agree 200% with you on everything that you just said. Not all the SRT-8s ran 12s at all,that is why I called it one of a kind because like you said, that guy ran under optimal conditions.

I have seen some topics on the c5forums from people claiming to run in the 11's on the C5 Z06s, many C5Z06 owners are able to run high 12's generally, here in Tucson absolutely No a single Z06 have been seen in the 12's bone stock, that is a simple fact.

It all depends on the track, the altitude, the temperatures and off course the driver. It is a manner of fact I took my Golf GTIVR6 (bone stock except a K&n) to the local track(SIR), I was aiming for a 15.5@90MPH(I got a 15.7@91) but anyway, I was stone cold when I was racing the Dodge SRT 340HP Hemi running freaking 15.3 and almost parallel with my Golf GTI almost the entire way, I was expecting more from such a "muscle car", I had the stock tires . And how about a 400HP GTO running a 14.6(best).

How about nissan 350z in the high 15's, and the RX8's on the 17 and 18's, you come to Tucson and you will see indeed the worst times cars have to offer.

Ask Evofunk, he ran incredible times in Cecil with minor mods on his Evo300WHP and ran 12.0@114.8 and now send him a PM and ask him how disastrous were his runs here in Tucson. Track, altitude, temp,driver...

The only cars that you rarely see consistently tunning 12's in Tucson SIR are the Modded Cobras, not even the C5s can break bellow 13.5's. I have only seen two STI doing 13.8 and a 13.9 at SIR.

There are a couple of guys that I have seen in Tucson a few times, one of them use to bring his Automatic WRX stock to the track and use to run 16.4@87mph over and over and over lap after lap after lap. Evn with a bad launch, you don't even have to shift and even if you launch late the stop watch actually does not start until you move away from the box(track tire locator sensor).

Sometimes you see the best and the worst..

my .2c

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note to self: don't move to Tucson
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Originally Posted by E. Haskell
note to self: don't move to Tucson
LOL, that is a good one bro. Now let me tell you the good things about Tucson and surrounding:

It is one of the cities were there are more vehicles clubs per square mile, I really mean it: Harley clubs, Hot rods,muscle classic, imports

On winter time during the day you can be in shorts,sandles and t tops, great weather.

Then you have Sierra Vista which is about 45 minutes away with a lot of sub clubs as well.

On the other hand there are multiple club rides just about every single weekend, Tucson has a lot of mountains in the surroundings and there are a few autocross tracks nearby(Pinal motorplex, Sierra Vista municipal airport,Tucson SIR)

Every weekend Tucson offers you a huge variety of car events that you can join.
Also, there are a lot of well organized"not so friendly legal events" (cough) you know what I mean, there are straigh line desertic roads everywhere and off course that is a lot of fun too..


Then the best part of all, you can congregate 15-20 Evos and 10-15 WRX-STI at any given time, there are too many and fortunately WRX/STI and Evos here in Tucson get alone very very well because we normally go cruising the mountains often. Summarizing, great weather, great relationship between EVO/STI and a lot of respect for other cars but remember, SIR is famous for being one of the worst track in the country

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Originally Posted by E. Haskell
The thing you've got to consider is DA. The 12.56 was ran at Atco(I believe) and Atco can have a DA of -1000ft+ in the fall. Combine that with great temps and you get great mph and ET. While these are great times, I don't think they represent what the cars actually run.

Consider this: the Srt8 in stock form is good for 360-370rwhp and it has a curb weight of ~4160lbs. A stock 03/04 Cobra puts down about 10rwhp more and it's 400+ lbs lighter---the best stock Cobra time that I've ever heard of is 12.43 by Evan Smith. (only .07 faster )

Another example would be a '01/'02 fbody which has about 310-320rwhp in stock form----BUT they're ~700 lbs lighter than a 300c SRT8. How many stock fbodies have you seen running 12.3 - 12.5?

Anyway, while someone may have ran 12.5, I wouldn't consider it "the time" which 300c's run. It also seems kind of strange that someone in that particular test would just happen to run the best time EVER documented for a 300c
Again, all you are listing are ETs. The only thing that matters is MPH. Cobras trap higher than 111mph in stock form. I don't care what the best ET is that you've seen or heard of, because it's the trap speed that matters. A 111mph trap can hit a 12.5 with a good launch. That's how it is. What you should be arguing is that an SRT-8 can't trap 111. I agree that most won't, but 109mph doesn't seem to be that rare, and with great conditions, 111 happened. The person who hit this 12.56 had nothing to do with the test. It was just some guy on the 300C forums.
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Since E.Haskell is listing HP/weight, I thought it would be interesting to note that the SRT8 has a better weight/HP ratio than the IX MR...

srt8 4160lbs/425hp = 9.7lb/hp
Evo 3285lbs/286hp = 11.4lb/hp
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Again, all you are listing are ETs. The only thing that matters is MPH. Cobras trap higher than 111mph in stock form. I don't care what the best ET is that you've seen or heard of, because it's the trap speed that matters. A 111mph trap can hit a 12.5 with a good launch. That's how it is. What you should be arguing is that an SRT-8 can't trap 111. I agree that most won't, but 109mph doesn't seem to be that rare, and with great conditions, 111 happened. The person who hit this 12.56 had nothing to do with the test. It was just some guy on the 300C forums.
On dragtimes.com, a data base of REAL peoples times, the fastest SRT-8 was 13.023 and he had intake and exhaust. Fastest stock time was 13.101 and another guy did 13.610, also stock. Therefore I doubt the SRT-8 can hit 12s stock.

heres the link.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge--Magnum-Drag-Racing.html
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like warrtlon said ET's dont tell the story u gotta look at MPH!! MPH shows exactly what the car is capable of, ET's are too dependable on the driver...
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Originally Posted by Evo_Kid
On dragtimes.com, a data base of REAL peoples times, the fastest SRT-8 was 13.023 and he had intake and exhaust. Fastest stock time was 13.101 and another guy did 13.610, also stock. Therefore I doubt the SRT-8 can hit 12s stock.

heres the link.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge--Magnum-Drag-Racing.html
Ok, Evo Kid, so the only drag times that count are the ones on that list? What about my 12.000 without cams? Is it on there?


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