Jasil

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Sonic, I'm done with you. Go look at the times, tracks, and results of various timed events and the people who really do out and track their cars will vehemently disagree with you.

blonde

iTrader: (12)

hahahhahahhahhaha, dude you rock!!!

oh wait, the z06 IS lighter than the EVO.... hell, the Z06 is lighter than most import cars out there and not by little.

why don't you do a bit more research before you start bashing cars...

UndieStainz

I love corvettes...

Kee1pride

iTrader: (10)

you may see it that way but i see something like this as a compliment! To be compared to a Z06 is an accomplishment in my eyes.

ShiftySVT

Both are great cars, but for different reasons.

Evo has better:
- Handling FEEL
- All-weather traction
- Shifter
- Seats
- Passenger and luggage room
- Affordability

Z06 has better:
- Power (duh)
- Weight
- Skid-pad grip
- Super car status / Cool factor
- EPA HWY fuel mileage (believe it or not!)

Tie
- Value (subjective - depends on how you value the above qualities)
- brakes (slight nod to the Z06)
- Interior (both are mediocre)

GPTourer

Word. All C6's are lighter, even the convertible is lighter then the Evo. 3132lbs for the Z06.

blonde

iTrader: (12)

it is just amazing to me that evo owners are so defensive about their cars and can not give credit where credit is due. let's be honnest, the z06 is a special car. it uses tons of parts which are normally reserved for 100k+ cars and it performes like cars 4 times its price. it is very similar to the evo in that regard. the evo can beat up cars that costs 60k + (m3, s4 etc..) and the Z06 can do the same (996tt, vipers etc..). now, iif you hate american cars than thats your right but at least use the correct facts if you want to bash the Z06

1) saying that the Z06 is heavy is just stupiid considering the fact that it is soooo light
2) saying that its big engine is not efficiant is stupid because it gets better mpg than an evo
3) saying that the car sucks because it has cheap interior is stupid when it comes from an evo owner (if an M3 owner said that than sure)
4) saying that the car is too expensive is stupid because the only other way to get this kind of performance is to buy a 360 modena or a 996tt



i for one have no problem admiting that i would take a Z06 over an evo any day of te week. i also have no problem giving respect to Chevvy for producing such an amazing car....

blonde

iTrader: (12)

oh and yes, a tuned evo can beat the z06 but a tuned huyndai can also wipe the floor with the evo with enough money. comapring modded cars to stock ones is never fair. you can always build a faster car if you have the money.. however, the platform that you get with the z06 is way better and thats a fact. lighter body, stronger block, better brakes etc...

sonicnofadz

iTrader: (4)

hahahhahahhahhaha, you don't know what your talking about.

Z06 curb weight: 3130 lbs

3rd gen rx7 curb weight: 2826 lbs

s13 curb weight: 2699 lbs

The z06 is an overweight pig. There is a difference bettween "handles" versus "capability of being handled", and capability of the handler. Don't get me wrong, the Z06 is a beast of a car, but there is nothing special about it. Its powerful, and has rear wheel drive. Ummmm...there are like so many other rwd cars out there that are lighter and can be made to be just powerful with little financial effort. The EVO is also an overweight pig but at least it doesn't cost 70 grand.

hslayer

hmmm

ZK

iTrader: (10)

For those of you who don't want to register to read it. I've hosted it:

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GPTourer

Okay, but your two examples have been out of production for several years. Maybe your "point" would carry more weight if you compared it to currently produced RWD's that comply with today's safety requirements. And even if we use those two cars, do you have any proof that they would beat a Z06 on a road course? Stock, of course.

sonicnofadz

iTrader: (4)

There is no guarantee (in reality) that someone in a stock Z06 would win against someone in a stock civic ex on a road course (or vice versa). This depends on the ability of the driver. What we are talking about here is theoretical handling limits. I quoted two cars out of production, because they are two great examples of inexpensive machines that can quite easily "out-maneuver" a z06 (stock). If we are talking about modern cars ONLY (which I guess, was originally the topic) the Z06 has very few competitors (why doesn't Japan produce any modern powerful/lightweight RWD cars anymore? ). The lotus elise would probably give the Z06 a run for its money but on a straight-away a z06 would eat the lotus alive.

bd307

Like Blonde said, people are just focusing how much they can spend to upgrade their car to compete with the Vette. It is never fair to compare an upgraded car with even 1 mod on their car to a stock car.

Sure, you can spend a little money on the Evo to compete with the level of Vette on a drag strip, but Vette is a Vette and it out-handled an Evo on a road course for sure if you are comparing them stock to stock and same skill amoung the drivers.

For me, I would choose Vette in any day over an Evo if I have the money and choice.

sonicnofadz

iTrader: (4)

The point I'm trying to make is this:

You can say its not fair to compare other cars that are modified...wait a second why is it not fair? The Z06 costs 70k. My point is this:

YOU CAN BUILD A CAR FOR $20,000.00 THAT WILL OUT-POWER AND OUT-HANDLE THE Z06.

Maybe this is a obvious point to some, but apparently not to many. I have to admit however, stock for stock in terms of modern cars the Z06 has most other sports cars beat, if you are willing to shell up 70 grand for a car that will not be able to out perform a modified $20,000.00 car.