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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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Well I just recently got my hands on a Evo IX MR and im treating the car very well, driving it nice and slow around town. When i do get on it, i dont feel exactly confident in my shifts. I was just wondering if anyone here has taken a performance driving class? And what kind of class do you think would benifit me the most? Im currently looking into panozracingschool.com . I was going to take a 3 day course for like 1.2k a day. I hope its worth it. Im OPEN to ALL suggestions. Thanks.
The car has an usually high clutch engagement point and over time you'll get a better "feel" for it.
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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When you feel you can't improve on your own anymore then go to driving schools
That's a great way to learn bad habits that will take your instructor FOREVER to correct. Some of my worst students were the ones who thought they were "king of the streets" because they could make their tires squeal around on-ramps.


Originally Posted by Evolved Monkey
I just think that you can learn to be a competent driver on your own without spending three thousand dollars on driving schools.
A basic, 1-day skid school will cost you $50. A typical track day is $150-200 tops. A budget of $3000 will buy you an awful lot of track time.

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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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i'm actually looking into doing some sort of driving school thing as a fun weekend for me and my girlfriend. sounds like most of you guys are recommending the BMW or Porsche clubs though, so maybe i need to look into that a bit. maybe some track day at Thunderhill or something......
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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i guess I was unwittingly looking only at "commercial" driving schools...
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Kayaalp
Everyone lets you use your own car! Look at NASA, BMW CCA, PCA, Trackmasters, PBOC, etc. You can use your own car with any of them. Only the commercial schools (e.g., Skip Barber, Panoz, etc.) will provide you with a car.

BTW, the BMW CCA started doing driving schools in the late 1960's. The curriculum they developed has been adopted by just about every other organization in North America...including those expensive race schools. The PCA was not too far behind. You can't go wrong with the BMW CCA or PCA.

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I have done several of these with the Porsche club and the BMW club. They are cheap and they are done very well. Don't waste your money on a high priced school just yet. You will learn more for the money with one of these club events.

You don't have to be a member to join the event. You just might pay a little more.
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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Kaayalp & drsmiley are dead on target!

A quality driving school will not only improve your driving and ability, it can actually save your life! My 1st driving school was @ BSR in Winchester PA. it was a 5 day school paid for by the DOD. The skills I learned there have enabled me, not only to enjoy my driving, but avoid several accidents!
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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Kayaalp,
I have to agree 100% except ....

I started with the Alfa club here in my area. But most car clubs should have just what the poster needs. Right now is the time. Each spring the clubs ( up north) offer car control education. skid pads, braking, etc. and the neat part is, it is a friendly enviroment.

Great way to break into the sport without any pressure or worries. And it is inexpensive.
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Evolved Monkey
Don't get so offensive dude, I not here to argue with you. I just think that you can learn to be a competent driver on your own without spending three thousand dollars on driving schools.
I guess it's clear now that you in fact do not know what you are talking about. Most weekend HPDE only cost ~$250. That's two days of track time with instruction and classroom time. You can find this with BMW clubs, Porsche clubs (PCA) and NASA.
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 06:41 AM
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Not really, green group in HPDE is really for beginners only.
If you don't understand anything about car dynamics, that's a good way to start since they teach you some. I would recommend it to everybody.
One can also learn ALOT on the Internet. There are quite a few good websites explaining racing dynamics, mass transfer, a bit about tire contact, how suspension and diffs work etc etc. If you understand physics then all that will be real simple to understand and just seat time is needed (since theory is one and actualy doing it another thing).
Anyone have a good list of these sites?
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 06:50 AM
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http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/
has some thoughts, go down the inventory on the left side of the page, (it's a parts seller so you have to look for tech tips and racing physics)
I am sure there are better, just something I ran across
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.IX
When i do get on it, i dont feel exactly confident in my shifts..
upshifts?? that's pretty basic stuff. if you haven't mastered upshifts, i wouldn't worry about performance driving at all just yet...




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