HELP Killed 2 rear diffs in less than 3k!!!
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Originally Posted by munkyhead8
It has the stock wheels and as I said, brand new tires all around.
BTW,the transfer case that I rebuilt was also done under extended Warranty,so this Dic#head wants everything for free and LIES to top it all off(Did I mention that I hate Liars)Sorry for the long post,just make sure of tire size and that all are same make and type,even the Best is fooled once and a while
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Originally Posted by Rallyman
Maybe you have a diff with the wrong axle ratio - Mitsubishi make a number of different ratios for rallying, but you must use the same back and front. To test, jack up all four wheels and check how many turns of the engine are required to move the front and then the rear wheels one revolution.
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Originally Posted by munkyhead8
OK, so I just bought this '03 evo from a local dealership. It had 20xxx miles on it when I bought it on the 29th of December. I know for a fact that it was highly modded by the previous owner because one of my friends knows him and saw the car a while ago. He returned it almost to stock before trading it in for a IX. All that was left was the roll cage.
Because of this fact I opted to get the car certified for the 10yr/ 100k warranty. Well I'm glad I did because after 1500 miles the rear diff started to get louder and then it began to grind. So the dealership replaced it without incident. Well about 1000 miles and its about cooked agian. It had just started to make a little grind and I took it to the dealer agian. This time they said it is a normal sound. The whine from the thing is painful to the ears at about 62 and when the weight of the car is neutral, its grinding worse and worse everyday. I'm going to take it to them for a third time and hopefully they replace it agian.
On a good note, they haven't given me any trouble and I don't think they will this time either. And just to be clear, Im not new to the manual awd cars, I owned a 92 3000gt vr4 for about 4 years and had a 5 speed impreza for 2 before that. I'm not a pro or anything, but I have never had problems like this.
Any ideas what could cause this? I know the engine was out of the car at one point. I've never pulled an engine, but could a mount be installed wrong. Maybe the drive shaft is out of phase? I don't here any strange clunks so I dont think its a worn mount. I'm just glad I seem to have found a good dealership.
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John
Because of this fact I opted to get the car certified for the 10yr/ 100k warranty. Well I'm glad I did because after 1500 miles the rear diff started to get louder and then it began to grind. So the dealership replaced it without incident. Well about 1000 miles and its about cooked agian. It had just started to make a little grind and I took it to the dealer agian. This time they said it is a normal sound. The whine from the thing is painful to the ears at about 62 and when the weight of the car is neutral, its grinding worse and worse everyday. I'm going to take it to them for a third time and hopefully they replace it agian.
On a good note, they haven't given me any trouble and I don't think they will this time either. And just to be clear, Im not new to the manual awd cars, I owned a 92 3000gt vr4 for about 4 years and had a 5 speed impreza for 2 before that. I'm not a pro or anything, but I have never had problems like this.
Any ideas what could cause this? I know the engine was out of the car at one point. I've never pulled an engine, but could a mount be installed wrong. Maybe the drive shaft is out of phase? I don't here any strange clunks so I dont think its a worn mount. I'm just glad I seem to have found a good dealership.
thanks
John
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I'm a VW/Audi tech so have experience and knowledge in this 4wd stuff. If you say you went through 2 rear diffs in such little time you have to look at the common denominator. You have the possibility that you recieved a bad rebuilt diff(happens at VW/Audi at times) or what I think the cause is either the longitudenal(sp) driveshaft or something with the rear drivetrain.
These diags are assuming that all tires are the same and the fluid level is correct and the right fluid is used. Hope you get it straightened out.
These diags are assuming that all tires are the same and the fluid level is correct and the right fluid is used. Hope you get it straightened out.
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Originally Posted by Rallyman
Maybe you have a diff with the wrong axle ratio - Mitsubishi make a number of different ratios for rallying, but you must use the same back and front. To test, jack up all four wheels and check how many turns of the engine are required to move the front and then the rear wheels one revolution.
So what are your symptoms??? What does it sound like or feel like?? My tranny is on the way out, or so I think, but maybe mine could be the rear diff too . . .
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Just thinking, I had a friend who went through 2 transfer cases in a matter of weeks. It ended up being the output shaft connection to the driveshaft. If for some reason your DS is not ballanced it could beat up your rear diff seal and cause it to leak oil?? Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by EVOlutionary
Just thinking, I had a friend who went through 2 transfer cases in a matter of weeks. It ended up being the output shaft connection to the driveshaft. If for some reason your DS is not ballanced it could beat up your rear diff seal and cause it to leak oil?? Just a thought.
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My buddy never felt a thing on his talon until the shafts got so hot they welded together and the drivetrain locked up. So he put the new unit in. Same thing happened. Second time he put in a new output shaft and seals and has not had any more problems.
I don't really know much about the rear diff. Just giving you some ideas to look into.
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I don't really know much about the rear diff. Just giving you some ideas to look into.
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Well all four tires are identical is size and age (235/45/17). I just went out to verify that for certian. I also checked for leakes and there is no evadence of one. I'm really at a loss here. Lucky for me its the dealers problem to figure out. I have to give them credit, from all the horror stories I hear about bad dealerships. They have been amazing and haven't once tried to point the finger at me. Hell even the tech was asking me what plans I had for modding the car. I'm going to take some of these ideas to the dealer with me and anymore is very much welcome. thanks guys...
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Ok I should probably add some symptoms here too. Well when I first got it, I heard a slight whine from the rear at about 60 mph. (sounds like gears out of mesh), but I had always heard that the evo was a noisy drivetrain so I didnt think much of it. Well after a couple weeks it became noticeably louder. Loud enough to be uncomfortable to the ears. It seemed to do it more when it was colder out. Then it slowly started to develop a grinding noise when the weight on the drive train was neutral. It seemed to change slightly in sound when I would go over bumps too. Thats about the only symptoms that have arose. The only vibration I get is when decelerating down hills, I occasionally feel what seems like a sloppy carrier bearing at about 2500 rpms, but it seems like thats a common issue. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Sorry for the long post, I just want to be as decriptive as possible.
Sorry for the long post, I just want to be as decriptive as possible.
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Originally Posted by Hotshot940
yeah that whining at around 60 mph sounds VERY similar to a transfer case issue.
As a note, on the service report it says "replaced carrier assy. rear diff"