Evo IX MR vs. Evo IX: Is the MR worth it?
Feb 28, 2006, 10:12 AM
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The laptime differences between the GSR and the MR are pretty minimal. The vortex generators do not generate downforce in and of themselves. They are supposed to theoretically "smooth" the air flow off the roof . If you want to argue that this allows for the rear wing to be more effective that is possibly true, but only at very high speeds.
I do not believe that the aero effects make that much of a difference at non-track speeds.
If you spent the money that you saved by buying a GSR on mods (ECU flash to start with), you'd be able to easily get the GSR to go faster than a MR.
I do not believe that the aero effects make that much of a difference at non-track speeds.
If you spent the money that you saved by buying a GSR on mods (ECU flash to start with), you'd be able to easily get the GSR to go faster than a MR.
Feb 28, 2006, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by zgodfathera
Dont sweat it Tsurara hes just tryin to make himself feel better for not getting an MR.... 
If someone can find a good link to prove the value of the aluminum roof or the vortex generators, maybe I'll have a change of heart. Sorry if my initial post came off a bit acerbic
Feb 28, 2006, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by yooyooyoo
The laptime differences between the GSR and the MR are pretty minimal. The vortex generators do not generate downforce in and of themselves. They are supposed to theoretically "smooth" the air flow off the roof . If you want to argue that this allows for the rear wing to be more effective that is possibly true, but only at very high speeds.
I do not believe that the aero effects make that much of a difference at non-track speeds.
If you spent the money that you saved by buying a GSR on mods (ECU flash to start with), you'd be able to easily get the GSR to go faster than a MR.
I do not believe that the aero effects make that much of a difference at non-track speeds.
If you spent the money that you saved by buying a GSR on mods (ECU flash to start with), you'd be able to easily get the GSR to go faster than a MR.
Feb 28, 2006, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by zgodfathera
Still wouldnt be an MR though!
Then your car would whoop the MR in everyway, except maybe the "coolness" factor of having a MR badge and those tiny little sharkfins breaking up your roofline.
Feb 28, 2006, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsurara
The aluminum roof saves a good deal of weight compared to the steel roof (Robi said 40 lbs solid/80lbs sunroof) where you need it most. The vortex generators are functional over 80mph and create downforce. The Zero lift kit includes brake air duct guides which are fairly valuable and also generates downforce (the kit, not the guides, to clarify). Are you downplaying the importance of good aero?
Originally Posted by Mitsubishi Motors
The Lancer Evolution RS and MR were the first steel monocoque-bodied Japanese production cars with an aluminum roof panel. The use of aluminum reduces the upper body weight by approximately 8.8 lbs (4 kg)
I'll go look up the white paper on the vortex generators. It has technical data discovered by the Mitsubishi engineers and it should shed light on that particular feature.
Feb 28, 2006, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by urBan_dK
40 lbs saved from aluminum roof? Sorry this is simply incorrect. From media.mitsubishicars.com:
I agree that the zero lift kit is very helpful, but it's expensive. The brake air duct guides can be purchased from Mitsubishi seperately for much less (even for the plain jane IX).
I'll go look up the white paper on the vortex generators. It has technical data discovered by the Mitsubishi engineers and it should shed light on that particular feature.
I agree that the zero lift kit is very helpful, but it's expensive. The brake air duct guides can be purchased from Mitsubishi seperately for much less (even for the plain jane IX).
I'll go look up the white paper on the vortex generators. It has technical data discovered by the Mitsubishi engineers and it should shed light on that particular feature.
Also, the zero lift kit is 250$ invoice, if you are buying a 30,000$ car, that shouldn't be an issue.
Feb 28, 2006, 11:04 AM
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Couldn't justify the price hike that the MR has over the regular IX, so I got the IX and I am pretty happy with it. If I travelled on the highway often, it would be nice to have a 6th gear though. At 65mph in 5th, I am at 3000rpms in my IX, but I don't mind. 
Feb 28, 2006, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsurara
*shrug* I am just stating what a real and reputable person who actually races their car says. If you want to trust Mitsubishi marketing all the time, feel free.
Originally Posted by Tsurara
Also, the zero lift kit is 250$ invoice, if you are buying a 30,000$ car, that shouldn't be an issue.
My goal is just to present factual information. I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes. If someone want's to spend an extra $5000 on an MR, more power to them. The cost/benefit just isn't there for me.
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Feb 28, 2006, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by urBan_dK
If someone want's to spend an extra $5000 on an MR, more power to them. The cost/benefit just isn't there for me.
Feb 28, 2006, 11:18 AM
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Zero lift kit is basically useless ,
took the extension out after it is bent (after having the car for a wk )
Brake air guide is useful , but then u can just go and buy it urself
gauge pack is too hard to see , but then it already has the wiring and vac tube setup
or u can just do a stereo-gauge swap
basically , it comes down to the 6 speed gear box
if u can sell off ur b. suspension , air dam ext ., ur BBS wheels , sell ur gauge pack ,
it actually dun cost u that much for an MR
you need to ask urself a question:
u want anything in Base IX that re not on a MR ?
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took the extension out after it is bent (after having the car for a wk )
Brake air guide is useful , but then u can just go and buy it urself
gauge pack is too hard to see , but then it already has the wiring and vac tube setup
or u can just do a stereo-gauge swap
basically , it comes down to the 6 speed gear box
if u can sell off ur b. suspension , air dam ext ., ur BBS wheels , sell ur gauge pack ,
it actually dun cost u that much for an MR
you need to ask urself a question:
u want anything in Base IX that re not on a MR ?
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Feb 28, 2006, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by yooyooyoo
Yeah, it'd be a hell of a lot faster. assuming $4k is the difference, you could easily tune the GSR to 400 whp and have money left over for stickier rubber.
Then your car would whoop the MR in everyway, except maybe the "coolness" factor of having a MR badge and those tiny little sharkfins breaking up your roofline.
Then your car would whoop the MR in everyway, except maybe the "coolness" factor of having a MR badge and those tiny little sharkfins breaking up your roofline.
Feb 28, 2006, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by zgodfathera
okay enough at the end of the day if u had to pick (for free) an 06 GSR or 06 MR which one would u pick? i think i kinda know the answer!
But, given the choice between an 06 MR and and an 06 GSR + $5000, I'd take the GSR! I think this would be a more relevant example
Feb 28, 2006, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by urBan_dK
I agree with you. Who wouldn't take the more expensive vehicle?
But, given the choice between an 06 MR and and an 06 GSR + $5000, I'd take the GSR! I think this would be a more relevant example
But, given the choice between an 06 MR and and an 06 GSR + $5000, I'd take the GSR! I think this would be a more relevant example
Feb 28, 2006, 12:37 PM
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The only reason i see someone gettitng a 9 mr is if they want 6 gear, but if you want that other stuff, then just get a IX and buy some suspension kit, Hid kit, and
you got a better mr, minus the 6 gears. ANd it only cost you..................................
IX + 1500 = better then MR
you got a better mr, minus the 6 gears. ANd it only cost you..................................
IX + 1500 = better then MR
Feb 28, 2006, 01:52 PM
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Go look at Motor trend online and check out the comparo between the 3 evo VIII's.
I betcha with the 5 speed gearing change for the IX and perchasing light wheels will get you same or what I believe to be better performance than the mr.
I betcha with the 5 speed gearing change for the IX and perchasing light wheels will get you same or what I believe to be better performance than the mr.