Oh boy- I took a friend, a fellow c-coupe owner and track buddy out for a quick ride in the Evo. I had him grabbing for the "oh snap" handle. Plows a bit on the street, I can see how the rear adj. bar is going to help. I have run with RA-1s in the past, I have enough track experience, but, I would like to know the car "as-is". I keep making mention of this, I do have related track experience at NASA HPDEs @ three different tracks.

SS Lines and Motul are going to go in, I plan to get the Hawk pads as well. I agree that no car should be on track without them. I need a set of track wheels as well. I have a set of RA-1s I am going to hit with tire softener and run for the first event.

My dealership stated that track days, driver education and HPDEs are ok. No timed events, and I was warned that they would know. I was told anything other than a rollbar and the warranty would go away. I was told HPDE and a rollbar / cage would be OK! Need to ask for it in writing.

When I picked up the car, I brought up the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)) .

I pointed out that so long as I am not "racing" i.e., entering timed, wheel to wheel or other competitive events, the M&M Act protected my warranty in that unless you can prove that an aftermarket exhuast caused the turbo to fail, I can not be denied warranty service, for example.

I explained that I am conscience of the strains of performance driving and would not attempt to scam them, but I would expect the same respect in return. I was told to discuss it with the service manager. I need to see how that goes, however, I don't want to get myself flagged in the first week as a result. From what I've read here, I already have major trust issues with service.

I can't get over how quick this thing is. It's hard to drive slow, and it's extremely hard to not hit 100mph just passing on the hwy. Gets there very quick. Loving it so far.

 

yeah, the best hope for you is a friendly dealer, mine didn't mind minor stuff, and never said anything, but that guy is no longer with them, and i'm hesitant to go in for my free service

i'll take it in, just for grins, as theres no possible way they'd honor anything other than maybe a defective door handle or something, and even that would probably be called "wear and tear"

once you accept the fact that mitsu's warranty is a joke, it's a lot easier to get down and do what you wanna do.

that stock boost taper has to go, and that definatly voids the warranty

 

Congrats on your RS. I'm setting mine up for the same thing, just more hard core because I've got some years under my belt. Have fun, it's a slippery slope!! WarmPepsi's right just accept the warranty doesn't exist, it's more fun that way. The more fun you have at the track, the more you go. The more you go, the faster you get. The faster you get the more upgrades you need. The more upgrades you get the faster you go, and on and on! Before you know it your measuring tire life in 20 minute sessions and instructing others. I got the RS partially because of the lack of electronic driver aids. They only teach you be sloppy. Hitting the ABS is the drivers failure to modulate the brakes properly. You'll learn more about car control without all that stuff. I'll find out if I can hit 157 at Road America. Between corner 3 and 5 is level then down hill. I'd take it easy and still hit 135 with my lowly 270hp '95 911. I get the feeling it will be about 145mph. That's o.k., I start thinking of things like catastrophic tire failure at speeds like that.

 

I have a solid year on track, two years prior auto-x in my old '02 MB C230 Coupe. I forgot about the warranty on that. I choose the RS for the same reasons. The MB had three settings, on, lower threshold and off. I was able to run that car very fast with everything off, in Dyno Mode. No ABS, no stability program, no interference.

Seems every car I own, the first 5-10K are the gremlin miles. After that I will be less concerned. I wouldn't want a factory defect to be blamed on something that was goofy.

I went out and played a little tonight. This part of MD has a lot of old winding country roads... *** end gets loose easier than I was expecting. Probably the cold temps and the OEM tires Definately a cool car. I've been checking out vids of these things just being floored through the turns, four wheels squealing. Nasty stuff

The next NASA Mid-Atlantic HPDE is Summit Point Shenandoah 4/1-2. I plan on being there.

 

basically the same, i waited til 15k to mod much of anything, which meant i did 3 events on stock tires/brakes/fluid.

Only one time did i feel the tires getting greasy and the brakes starting to let go, but once you swap to a better pad, it's amazing.

my logs say i pull 1.4 g's during braking, and i believe it, because you're hanging forward, your butt lifts off the seat. amazing car.

 

The next NASA Mid-Atlantic HPDE is Summit Point Shenandoah 4/1-2. I plan on being there.[/QUOTE]


You will love the Shenandoah circuit. I ran the full course there (2.2 miles, 18 turns) in November. Let me just say that it is a very technical/tight course; really rewards smoothness/finesse. Beware, there's very little run-off room anywhere on that track. Its a much differnent track than SP main in that respect. I've been to 3 tracks (Roebling Road x2, Summit Main x4, Shenandoah) it is without a doubt the tougher of the 3, IMO. Have fun, I'm jealous.

 

Well I now have a massive 100 miles on my Rs really like it, still feeling out and not pushing it in any way, but i'm impressed so far. I'll go out again shortly and put some more miles on it.

 

I drove up to NJ from MD today to visit my parents. One of my silly human tricks is I figure out the way cars handle quickly. I am an analyst so, I just apply it to the car

I now have just under 500 miles in the thing since Thurs night. It's fun to power slide this thing when the tires are still a little cold. I love it. I've gotten used to the 5 speed, the MB was a 6 speed.

I do fear for the lives of the kids who own these things. A lot of power and capability with this car, need significant responsibility to handle it well.

Autopower bolt-in, SS Lines and Hawk Pads, maybe a robi tuned suspension hopefully soon

Can't wait for the NASA Summit Point event on 4/1-2

 

bolt in is a good thing.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...3&postcount=29

 

one problem with the cage is he's still daily driving this... any cage iwthout helmet is death waiting to happen even at low speed.

 

exactly. If you're competitive racing you have to have one, and rightfully so.

But for the occasional track day and HPDE, it's overkill, if there is such a thing.

Driving with a cage, on the street is stupid. Pad it all you want, foam doesn't give that much, when we're talking about your brain.

 

i agree wtih this... ss lines must, brake fluid must. but you can play around first... see if you can boil the fluid make the pedal soft and see if you can glaze your pads.

i must say hold off on all mods until you successively beat the car out of them. don't replace hte lines until you soft them. don't change the pads until you roast them, don't change the bar until you're really through with the understeer (remember you already have the front diff that helps a lot already, the 9 is much better htan the 8 was. wear out lots of tires fast. and also... the stock tire size sucks. run something wider with a lower profile.

 

erm, the idea is NOT to glaze your pads, why would you ever try to? it'd make for quite a crappy drive home. You know you're gonna overheat the pads, you should swap fluid every few months (or sooner) if you're actively doing events.

The thing that gets me with lines though... I bought braided lines, messed up the brass fitting, and purcahsed the replacement hard line, just haven't gotten around to doing it, however, my pedal never got soft, even though, i had to have boiled my super blue. (calipers read 640+) ate boils under 500.

Regardless, doing basic stuff to prep your car is definatly advised. Swap out the coolant to something more track friendly. (70 water/30 coolant w/ wetter here). Definatly need some harnesses, whether you get the bolt in on time or not, you cannot even attempt to stay in the seat when you're pulling 1g+ loads.

 

you would try to do it to see if the brakes really are as bad as everyone says they are. and then once they're glazed nad you're fed up with not being able to stop then you replace them. everyone is tellin' the guy to just go and change this nad that... and he hasn't even tried it all yet. that's just like takin' yer car to the local gofasterthaneveryoneelse shop and then puttin' everything they have on their race car on yours... you learn nothing.

 

and... instead of going to the local speed shop, he's asking EXPERIENCED evo drivers that track their car, and HAVE pushed it to the limits, and KNOW what they talking about?

Sure, if you go out on track and drive like a nanny, the stock brakes are just fine, they'll work great to pick up the groceries on the way home, without braking an egg.

But if you actually want to drive the car anywhere near the limits of the car (not the limits of the brakes), you're gonna need to upgrade. No reason to go out there and say "i'm gonna see how far, how hard i can go til i break something.

I'm not suggesting he start off with the ccr pads that i'm running, but something a bit more suitable for the task will undoubtly help.