Conservative or Liberal ??
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Originally Posted by MRinChrist
It is hard for me to understand how any self-respecting performance car owner would vote for the demoncrat party...They forumalted the 55 speed laws, .
OK, but that camp also brought us MANY things and got rid of things that actually matter...
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Originally Posted by Turbopit
OK, but that camp also brought us MANY things and got rid of things that actually matter...
I have an associate that has ~15 Skylines sitting in a warehouse here in California that can't be put on the street because of liberal Democrat policy...R32s and R33s...We are forced to screw our engines with 91 octane in this state, all for this lie that it is fossil fuel burning that is causing global warming...It is a lie, yet we are forced (or I should say scared) into accepting the lie and living with the enhanced (I should say penalizations) for simply transporting ourselves.
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Originally Posted by hueman
small point: the ***** were socialist in name in order to appeal to the german masses. the **** party is regarded as right wing facism, despite the name.
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Politics WHAT....
Wait a damn second! Why are we mixing our fun time (modding) with our govt. affiliation. Come on, there has to be some rule like the "no politics at the dinner table" rule in my family. "No politics while beefing up my already stellar car." Conservative or liberal? F that, just have some fun along the way and leave all this political stuff for some giant drink fest with friends. I mean that is when the really fun political arguments happen.
BEER ME!
BEER ME!
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Originally Posted by MRinChrist
No you are right...Also, if you are more liberal make sure you put 87 octane or less in your tank, because that is what they would prefer...better yet, trade in your car, get some birkenstocks and vote for higher taxes.
I am done ranting.
I am done ranting.
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Originally Posted by MRinChrist
It is hard for me to understand how any self-respecting performance car owner would vote for the demoncrat party...They forumalted the 55 speed laws, they won't allow us to drill for oil domestically, they demanded 91 octane **** water, they drive up gasoline prices and taxation with their nonsense regulations and taxes...They make it impossible for us to get the Skyline or other JDM imports because of their environmental fascism...Not to mention tax us into slavery and seek to understand and be tolerant of a religion bent on killing us.
Democrats are just neo-socialists.
Democrats are just neo-socialists.
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Originally Posted by MRinChrist
Good point, the ACLU does like to defend Islamofascist terrorists don't they?...Not to mention child molesters...But what do you expect from an organization founded by communists for communists.
Okay, I am done.
Okay, I am done.
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Conservative. Especially when it comes to government programs" that accomplish nothing except making people more and more dependant on government.
"give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him to fish and you feed him for life" Yes, a little bit cheesy, but true.
"give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him to fish and you feed him for life" Yes, a little bit cheesy, but true.
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Originally Posted by MRinChrist
Thanks for the help buddy. I have done more than a human should regarding my homework on these subjects. I am not your average evolutionm'er...I am 36, educated and self-supporting. My passion is politics and I spend great amounts of energy objectively supporting my positions.
Socialism, in the specific form of communism or fascism, is absolutely evil...It is not the geography, it is not the culture where it is tried, it is the ideology itself and Marxian theory, or Stalinist theory...Think Islam, those who practice the pure form of it become evil, similarly those that practice the purist form of communism become evil.
Socialism, in the specific form of communism or fascism, is absolutely evil...It is not the geography, it is not the culture where it is tried, it is the ideology itself and Marxian theory, or Stalinist theory...Think Islam, those who practice the pure form of it become evil, similarly those that practice the purist form of communism become evil.
Wow, so you're 36 and self supporting...pretty much what most of us are at that age. Great accomplishment as none of us have ever done THAT before. There's really no need to prove your "education". Just the fact you realize the difference between purist and most pure makes you ok in my book, even if I sweepingly disagree with your opinions.
You sprout dogma like it's fact and it just isn't. Socialism and communism are not one in the same whereas Marxism and Stalinism advocate different means of achieving a communist state and the production/distribution of goods. It sounds more like you've read a few choice books and passed up on all the real world experience. Name one pure communistic society in the history of mankind. You can't as it's never existed in a pure form. How then can you deduce that it's evil? Sure we can make an educated guess but we cannot truly know. We could argue that capitalism in it's purist form is overtly evil as it calls for the elimination of all competition; from Darwin to Chaimberlin, etc...they all come to the same conclusion. Try a bit of Bertrand Russell for a change. Barring any philosophical miscalculations, just remember that by making sweeping generalizations and placing people in neat little boxes, you become a fascist yourself.
I think if people knew how the republican party actually started, they'd make fewer cracks about bleeding heart democrats, the ACLU, etc...we often associate social programs with democrats yet we fail to realize the first republican president was Abraham Lincoln. In 1856, the Republicans became a national party when John C. Fremont was nominated for President under the slogan: "Free soil, free labor, free speech, free men, Fremont." Four years later, Abraham Lincoln became the first Republican to win the White House. Examine that slogan and tell me it doesn't have elements of socialism.
Making sweeping categorizations of people based on which way they vote isn't exactly objective, is it? It is in fact, extremely short-sighted to pin any social ill or community sway on something as fluid as a political party. Spend more time educating yourself in the real world and less time with your nose stuck in a book or listening to people who think the exact same way you do. Have you ever spent time in a communist country? Have you ever spent a week getting to know someone of Islamic background? Have you even read the Koran? You sprout all this stuff but how do you really know???? Less philopatric and more empiricism.
I'm curious as to what you do for a living.
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this is just to much fun i find it funny how you make it seem like making a car run well on 91 octane is impossible. if you actually knew anything about cars, why not try E85? or is that to much of a hippie fuel for your mans car?
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Yes the man who founded it was Roger Baldwin, he was actually a Stalinist and was infatuated with stalin and the way he ran things. He also went to Russia quite frequently and was a frequent guest at the cremlin. Roger also said he wanted to create an org that would create a facade to think that it was actually protecting civil liberties when infact they were going to take them away.
This simply isn't true...it doesn't strike you as odd (or downright idiotic) that a man infatuated with civil liberties would be a Stalinist? Here's a brief bio with the facts from the Harvard Square Library;
http://www.harvardsquarelibrary.org/...s/baldwin.html
And it's Kremlin, not cremlin. Seriously....it's apparent there are some with real issues here. "A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, and drinking largely sobers us again."-Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism, 1709.
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Roger also said he wanted to create an org that would create a facade to think that it was actually protecting civil liberties when infact they were going to take them away.