Conservative or Liberal ??
#46
Originally Posted by KevinD
just like george bush?
LOL, I wasn't going to bring that up (I deleted a whole section on his civil liberties record and human rights record worldwide) but I'm glad you mentioned it.
#47
Originally Posted by Mr. Stock
You sprout dogma...
You sprout all this stuff...
I'm curious as to what you do for a living.
You sprout all this stuff...
I'm curious as to what you do for a living.
Most people would've said "spout". What do YOU do for a living?
Last edited by cj8718; Mar 4, 2006 at 12:22 AM.
#49
Originally Posted by Mr. Stock
LOL, I wasn't going to bring that up (I deleted a whole section on his civil liberties record and human rights record worldwide) but I'm glad you mentioned it.
No matter what Bush does, he is damned by the Democrats...He does too much, you b!tch. If he does too little, ya b!tch and blame him. I am sure the left would just say something like "hey, at least Bush protected our 'civil liberties', so 100,000 people died, the ACLU is happy"...Right, that is what they would say...So Bush is stuck, he either pisses off the Democrat haters and Islamofascist lovers by wire-tapping scumbags, or he doesn't and allows those who hate us to exploit our 'civil liberties'...Either way the Democrats (friends of tyrants everywhere) are going to b!tch, so he might as well err on the side of our safety and security.
Bush has done more for peace and the ME than any President in recent history, save perhaps Ronald Reagan.
#50
Originally Posted by cj8718
We're all waiting for you to tell us about the rights you've lost.
#51
Originally Posted by Mr. Stock
nd it's Kremlin, not cremlin. Seriously....it's apparent there are some with real issues here. "A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, and drinking largely sobers us again."-Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism, 1709.
""A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury. From that time on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the results that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
The average age of the world's great civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence:
from bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to complacency;
from complacency to apathy;
from apathy to dependency;
from dependency back again to bondage."
This is where socialism brings a nation, slowly or quickly, inevitably.
#53
Originally Posted by 4 Wheel Slide
so how would a monarchy work out? can i be king? i hear that comes with a gt42
#54
I didn't even take the time to read this thread, but will use it to further my political agenda. For the record....
I don't care about the energy crisis, gas prices or the environment. I would pour a 4 dollar gallon of premium down a spotted owl's throat myself to gain a tenth in the quarter mile.
Mr. President....just make my car faster.
I don't care about the energy crisis, gas prices or the environment. I would pour a 4 dollar gallon of premium down a spotted owl's throat myself to gain a tenth in the quarter mile.
Mr. President....just make my car faster.
#55
Originally Posted by FlyNavy
I don't care about the energy crisis, gas prices or the environment. I would pour a 4 dollar gallon of premium down a spotted owl's throat myself to gain a tenth in the quarter mile.
Mr. President....just make my car faster.
Mr. President....just make my car faster.
#56
Originally Posted by Aux.
Yeah but who do i go through. Bushur , AMS ... i don't want a drag car ... i don't drag race. I like more everyday drivability . Something like road race i guess .
#57
Originally Posted by el producto
O and it was called the **** Socialist Party.....
People dont realize just cuz some people are conservative doesnt mean there bible humping pro choice go to church every Sunday kind of people...
When Conservative comes into my mind it says,
"Hey Government stay the **** outta my life or I'll take my rifle which the 2nd Admendment protects and blow your FAWKING head OFF!!!!!!!!"
When Liberal comes into my mind it says,
"I'm the biggest ***** hypocrite that says get outta Iraq because fighting for democracy and womens rights is worthless, but dont realize millions of men died in my own country just so my voice and political ideas could be heard.
People dont realize just cuz some people are conservative doesnt mean there bible humping pro choice go to church every Sunday kind of people...
When Conservative comes into my mind it says,
"Hey Government stay the **** outta my life or I'll take my rifle which the 2nd Admendment protects and blow your FAWKING head OFF!!!!!!!!"
When Liberal comes into my mind it says,
"I'm the biggest ***** hypocrite that says get outta Iraq because fighting for democracy and womens rights is worthless, but dont realize millions of men died in my own country just so my voice and political ideas could be heard.
be real seriously... fighting for democracy? womens rights? you see the women getting liberated? you see any democracy goin' on? it's the same rigged election **** that got saddam in power. seriously... wake up... it was about oil. is that ok? maybe, maybe not.
#58
Originally Posted by MRinChrist
No matter what Bush does, he is damned by the Democrats...He does too much, you b!tch. If he does too little, ya b!tch and blame him. I am sure the left would just say something like "hey, at least Bush protected our 'civil liberties', so 100,000 people died, the ACLU is happy"...Right, that is what they would say...So Bush is stuck, he either pisses off the Democrat haters and Islamofascist lovers by wire-tapping scumbags, or he doesn't and allows those who hate us to exploit our 'civil liberties'...Either way the Democrats (friends of tyrants everywhere) are going to b!tch, so he might as well err on the side of our safety and security.
Bush has done more for peace and the ME than any President in recent history, save perhaps Ronald Reagan.
Originally Posted by MRinChrist
Better still, Alexander Tytler:
""A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury. From that time on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the results that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
The average age of the world's great civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence:
from bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to complacency;
from complacency to apathy;
from apathy to dependency;
from dependency back again to bondage."
This is where socialism brings a nation, slowly or quickly, inevitably.
""A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury. From that time on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the results that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
The average age of the world's great civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence:
from bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to complacency;
from complacency to apathy;
from apathy to dependency;
from dependency back again to bondage."
This is where socialism brings a nation, slowly or quickly, inevitably.
when will people recognize that the political powers are just a facade for even the more intellectually developed americans to wrap their head around and roll around on the ground like little kittens with. it's a FACADE... you think one or the other has more power? it's a game to keep us from making REAL choices and getting REAL results.
Last edited by trinydex; Mar 4, 2006 at 04:39 AM.
#60
MRinChrist posting that 9/11 picture proves you are even more clueless then you already made yourself out to be. Typical Bush fearmongering bull****. 9/11 was carried out by the United States government. There are so many things that point to this being true I cant even go into it here. And before you even try to call me a whacko who is way out of touch with reality, let me state that I live and work construction in skyscrapers in New York City, including the new 7 WTC building that I was in just last week. Let me give you just a few bits of information about 9/11
- The first time in the history of the world that a steel framed building collapsed purely from a fire was on 9/11. That was the old 7 WTC. They claimed it was a pure fire that brought it down, impossible. NYC has a strict code of what materials can be used to construct buildings, fireproofing is a big part of the process. The steel used must reach at LEAST 2000 degrees F before it can begin to weaken and typically wont fail until over 3000 degrees.
-Jetfuel burns at 1200 degrees, and would have been the hottest burning material in the building in WTC 1 and 2. It is claimed that the damage from the planes entering the WTC weakend the structure and the resulting fires brought them down, well I have already proven that jetfuel is not hot enough to weaken steel used in construction. Steel core buildings throughout history have burned for as long as 24 hours straight spreading over many floors, and guess what, they didnt collapse, this includes the Empire State Building which was constructed back in the 1930s with older technology, had a B52 crash into it and set it on fire for hours, its still standing, I see it daily.
-Firefighters, police and newsreporters on teh ground that day reported secondary explosions repeatedly throughout the hour or so the buildings were on fire, all coming from the underground levels, weakening the foundation. The towers fell at Freefall speed, indicating nothing was breaking the fall of the supposed fire weakend toplevels, 1000s of tons of steel and concrete in its path, and nothing broke its fall? In later interviews with firefighters, they gave eyewitness accounts of how every floor blew out one after the other like in a "controlled demolition".
-Larry Silverstein, the owner of the wtc who made billions from the destruction cause the insurance payoff, was ON VIDEO saying the descision was made to destroy WTC 7 by demolition, yet later retracted that statement and claimed he was refering to something else and that it fell from a fire.
-the WTC removed bomb sniffing dogs that were previously on round the clock duty a week before 9/11. The buildings also ran some full power downs that week turning off all security cameras.
-George W Bush's brother Marvin Bush was the head of security for the WTC until Sept 10th.
-I forget right now the name of the organization that Cheny and Rumsfeld belong to that wrote a plan for American global domination in the new century back in 1999, that called for a huge increase in military spending to make america the worlds most dominant force in all aspects, and claimed that it would take a very long time to bring that to fruition save for "a catastrophic event, like a new pearl harbor."
It goes on and on, I cant really keep going into it but if you look around you will find alot more information, There is also a documentary about it. Go to video.google.com and search for loose change 2nd edition.
Basically alot of people stood to make ALOT of money and gain alot of power by those buildings being destroyed and the resulting fear of the american public which led us all to give the government 100 percent support to do whatever they had to do to protect us.
I am a native New Yorker. I was heartbroken when those buildings came down more then anyone who lives in other parts of the country can begin to understand. I was pissed at the terrorists, i had a kill em all attitude as well and supported anything Bush said about waging war on them, which is exactly what was planned by Bush and his buddies. But after my emotions were under control, and we stopped looking for bin laden and went to Iraq, I actually thought about the facts and how buildings are constructed in NYC, thers just no way it went down how the official story would have you believe.
Which is why I take offense to you posting up the unfortunate death of a fellow New Yorker as a way to further your own political agenda. I have no agenda but the truth. I could care less about politics I think theyre all a bunch of bullsh1tters. Truth and justice. And the real terrorist is the one you blindly follow.
Oh and by the way, you say liberals ban smoking, the mayor of NYC is a billionare republican, and signed into law that smoking is banned from all public places in the 5 boroughs.
- The first time in the history of the world that a steel framed building collapsed purely from a fire was on 9/11. That was the old 7 WTC. They claimed it was a pure fire that brought it down, impossible. NYC has a strict code of what materials can be used to construct buildings, fireproofing is a big part of the process. The steel used must reach at LEAST 2000 degrees F before it can begin to weaken and typically wont fail until over 3000 degrees.
-Jetfuel burns at 1200 degrees, and would have been the hottest burning material in the building in WTC 1 and 2. It is claimed that the damage from the planes entering the WTC weakend the structure and the resulting fires brought them down, well I have already proven that jetfuel is not hot enough to weaken steel used in construction. Steel core buildings throughout history have burned for as long as 24 hours straight spreading over many floors, and guess what, they didnt collapse, this includes the Empire State Building which was constructed back in the 1930s with older technology, had a B52 crash into it and set it on fire for hours, its still standing, I see it daily.
-Firefighters, police and newsreporters on teh ground that day reported secondary explosions repeatedly throughout the hour or so the buildings were on fire, all coming from the underground levels, weakening the foundation. The towers fell at Freefall speed, indicating nothing was breaking the fall of the supposed fire weakend toplevels, 1000s of tons of steel and concrete in its path, and nothing broke its fall? In later interviews with firefighters, they gave eyewitness accounts of how every floor blew out one after the other like in a "controlled demolition".
-Larry Silverstein, the owner of the wtc who made billions from the destruction cause the insurance payoff, was ON VIDEO saying the descision was made to destroy WTC 7 by demolition, yet later retracted that statement and claimed he was refering to something else and that it fell from a fire.
-the WTC removed bomb sniffing dogs that were previously on round the clock duty a week before 9/11. The buildings also ran some full power downs that week turning off all security cameras.
-George W Bush's brother Marvin Bush was the head of security for the WTC until Sept 10th.
-I forget right now the name of the organization that Cheny and Rumsfeld belong to that wrote a plan for American global domination in the new century back in 1999, that called for a huge increase in military spending to make america the worlds most dominant force in all aspects, and claimed that it would take a very long time to bring that to fruition save for "a catastrophic event, like a new pearl harbor."
It goes on and on, I cant really keep going into it but if you look around you will find alot more information, There is also a documentary about it. Go to video.google.com and search for loose change 2nd edition.
Basically alot of people stood to make ALOT of money and gain alot of power by those buildings being destroyed and the resulting fear of the american public which led us all to give the government 100 percent support to do whatever they had to do to protect us.
I am a native New Yorker. I was heartbroken when those buildings came down more then anyone who lives in other parts of the country can begin to understand. I was pissed at the terrorists, i had a kill em all attitude as well and supported anything Bush said about waging war on them, which is exactly what was planned by Bush and his buddies. But after my emotions were under control, and we stopped looking for bin laden and went to Iraq, I actually thought about the facts and how buildings are constructed in NYC, thers just no way it went down how the official story would have you believe.
Which is why I take offense to you posting up the unfortunate death of a fellow New Yorker as a way to further your own political agenda. I have no agenda but the truth. I could care less about politics I think theyre all a bunch of bullsh1tters. Truth and justice. And the real terrorist is the one you blindly follow.
Oh and by the way, you say liberals ban smoking, the mayor of NYC is a billionare republican, and signed into law that smoking is banned from all public places in the 5 boroughs.