Zeus

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Yes, I personally have been running the two anti-foulers for over a year now on my own 03 Evo with 53k on it. Not one CEL the entire time. Total investment over the price of the Megan Turbo back, $6.

GPTourer

IIRC, there was a big exhaust round up performed by a third party in which Buschur's exhaust came out on top for power production. It was also one of the most affordable and one of the lightest. No it wasn't the lightest or the cheapest, but it did produce the most power. So if he wants to hype up his product and make people aware of it, why can't he? It isn't the same thing as the guy who falsfied the radar testing because it was done by a third party.

There are many different ways to sell something, and if you don't like his style of selling that that's fine - but saying he has no right to do it or compare it to someone who is guilty of libel is out of bounds.

evolve_

damn i spent 150 on a perrin cat delete with cel eliminator cause i couldnt find the turbo-back on buschurs website aside from getting the full stage 1. anyway im very happy with the buschur, though i ended up paying a lot more than i should have i guess, buying it in pieces. its light and great quality and looks great, you wont be dissapointed with it. but ive heard similar things about the megan. so i guess just go with your gut

shimla

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is this for the "bullet"(not sure if that's the name) TBE you posted earlier w/c is 3.25"diameter? if it is then I guess the hi flo cat is 3.25 too!! Awesome price then!!!

dsmfan95

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I'm only using one, bored out a little to fit the o2 sensor.

ballistic speed

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I'm never said he was guilty of libel, please read my post b4 u say nething, i was mentions another example of vendor abuse/bias/libel as a testament that no vendor on a board/forum can be free of bias, he/she/vendor will have some bias and instead of trying to figure out if that bias is heavy or not is just better dealt with by having them not interfere on the basics board but instead in the vendor forums and for sale forums. And since i have stated all my soruces of information, why don't you give me this so called 3rd party that did the test, b/c i highly doubt they tested megan or logic or rnr. Maybe this they, maybe they didn't but untill you give me some verifyable information on who published this article or who this 3rd party is, i'll take it with a grain of salt. I'm very meticilous when it comes to these arguements, show me proof from a reputable source and then i'll believe it. Just a note, i bet that 3rd party was paid by alot of these companies just like all other magazines and online websites and such. I bet they tested HKS, Fujitsubo (doubt it), Buschur (he has a huge presence in the evo community so her prob was included), Injen, Borla, RSR, Vishnu (same reason as buschur), Greddy, and so on. Megan, logic, and rnr are not big names being droped when it comes to magazine testing, i've yet to see a huge test done with megan and such, so to mention a supposed article that prob didn't included megan is still shady. Please provide your sources.

EvoallovEr

This is my 2nd evo and I'm going with Buschur, having used a few different systems this one for me is superior. Not to even mention the weight savings and attention to detail put in the product.

Swift_OwL

I dont have my evo yet, but when I get it, I am going with buscher for that sweet package deal.

AJsGenerX

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I just ordered a turboback from RnR Racing for my DSM. A 3 inch tbe with an O2 eliminator cost me a total of $771 shipped to NJ. Thats not bad at all considering all the other products like HKS carbon ti catback which is like the same price but only catback. I heard nothing but good things about their exhausts from my fellow dsm tuners.

David Buschur

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ballistic speed,

You have a bad opinion of what vendors do in my opinion. There are some of our products which I am 100% certain of, our exhaust is one of them. TPR magazine did a test of about 12 exhaust systems a year or so ago. They were catbacks only. Other than the Magnaflow Titanium catback ours was by far the lightest. Also we made the most power other than the Magnaflow Titanium which made .8 more whp than we did but we beat them on torque by 1.3 ft lbs. If I remember right the titanium was lighter by about 6 pounds but cost around $500 more.

Since the time of that test we have changed quite a few things on our system that have made it even better. All of our hangers are 3/8" round bar stock made from 304 grade stainless steel and we have changed to our final muffler design, the new "bullet" muffler. This muffler has increased power over our BR lightweight race muffler (the loud one that was tested back then), I really didn't think that was possible but that seems to be the case from the dyno results lately.

The new muffler is 3.25" inside, the rest of the system is full 3" everywhere with no resonators or reducers. Using the larger diameter muffler as the last piece of the system works but would not work well in the case of the cat or any other piece forward of there if you then reduced it again.

In closing, (sounds funny) we have proven to make the maximum power and have proven that we have the lightest SS exhaust system on the market.

I agree Zeuss that the anti foulers are cheap, but it is a pain if someone has to go buy them then get a drill to drill them out to work etc. We include them drilled out to fit just so nobody has to run around and find them etc.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

travman

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[QUOTE=ballistic speed]I would read his post noob [QUOTE]

hahaha you call me a noob like im ignorant or something?....you joined the same time I did, actually a few days later? I just dont spend my life on the net posting crap all day and night so I can move up in the ranks

Buschurs exhaust is proven, and he has all the information you want to see to back it up not to mention testimonials from the "people"? so at this point he is allowed to say exactly what the tests have shown...The guy asked a question about a cheap exhaust? Dave gave his informaton for his exhaust which is one of the best bangs for your buck and is unbiased because the information is there to back up everything he says, its called selling....other than that he didnt bash any vendors or put any down...I can build a "cheap exhaust" myself which by title is what the original poster was looking for? and it will not be near what buschur has done with his....so if he wants to tell me why mine is cheap by all means go for it I wont argue

i am new to the evo world as an owner since october 05 but not to the turbo world....I have read so much stuff and have seen so many testimonials on buschur that I have it set in my head that the products they sell is what I want to spend my money on when im ready to mod in the near future...Its not overpriced crap, and its not cheap that it could possibly fall apart, its quality for the money and you cant beat it? who can argue with that??....I dont just buy what someone says is the best or what the cool thing is thats out there, ive never been a follower or someone who falls into peer pressure (could be why I have never been the "cool" guy )....I research and find out if in fact the products are true to what has been said about them whether from someone else or from a vendor....thats how i base a decision on whether i should buy or shouldnt buy..

Just remember "Happiness is like peeing your pants...Everyone can see it, but only you can feel it"

ballistic speed

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[QUOTE=travman][QUOTE=ballistic speed]I would read his post noob And yet you fail to prove these soruces, nor does buschur mention if these "cheap" exhaust systesm were tested. Not only that, many people use posts on this board as a method of research and if there is vendor bias, the research will be skewed. Not only that, NOTHING CAN BE UNBIAS (and that can be support by any Media Analysis Specialist). You then mention cheap, fall apart, and crap, non of those that have been associated with the cheap tbe megan offers, please do ur so called research more carefully. Not only that, the conribution i make to these boards only goes to show my involvement, you have much less so yes ur a noob, and it even says so in ur title. Noob

travman

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Seriously dude search....thats why I dont list the "so-called" info you seek...im not doing your dirty work because I have done it and its out there...There are plenty of posts in this forum that state the quality and performance that buschur products have....if you search you will find them, trust me....my regards to cheap, crap, and fall apart...well "crap" is my description word of over priced items with a jdm name or top brand that is waaaay overpriced...sorry if I offend anyone its just not my taste, I like getting more than a name with my money..again sorry if I offend anyone I dont mean its crap but to me it might as well be cause im not impressed?.... cheap something that is made from cheap materials that then can be manufactured and sold for less...which then comes the term "fall apart" which is from the cheap materials used (I have experience with this and no its not from any vendor on this site, so dont even question me on it)....im not pointing any vendors out on here, you keep bringing megan up? why? i think its great, they have great quality and inexpensive? i wont argue i like what they are doing....I prefer buschur? soooo sorry and at anytime someone asks me there opinion on a product I will say go check out www.buschurracing.com and you wont be sorry, there are countless testimonials on customer service and quality on the pieces they build, so good in fact Medina Mitsu. actually warranties Evo's bought there with buschur parts???....again please search evom you will find this information, take the time if you really want to know

AtO-MiX

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your statement is all opinion you only prefer buschur ( nothing wrong with that) for $825 you can get buschur tbe which is a good price...but you can get a JDM tbe for about that same price if you look for deals etc...i got mine for 830 with shipping free it may not be as light as the BR system... from a power gain stand point i would say i got close if not the same gains as the BR at least the hfc version (then again how would i know there is no test on my exhaust system vs BR).in any event an exhaust is an exhaust regardless of who makes it and power gains are relatively the same. Like i said BR is a solid company no doubting that and the TBE does make power, i dont know why ballistic cares since he does not own an evo so really isnt effected by this. The fact the BR says that his exhaust is the best on the market i think that is opinion even with his test of a few exhausts...now if he compares his to every exhaust by every company out there... then yeah go ahead and proclaim your self king.BR is a good exhaust choice not THE best choice and is one of the top brands out there.

The venders on evoM are top notch butI think his opinion is dead on. Some Venders and sponsered ppl on this forum like to promote products or personal brands in a way that they make it seem like its the best thing ever and if you dont buy it your car will be slow and wont run 12s or have 400whp or something.Venders are here for one thing and one thing only...to sell products and thats it. If you look for deals and look hard enough you can get any brand of product for a decent and affordable price.

Zeus

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I've turned down being a mod a few times... times like what has happened to this thread make me wonder if I should have... My Vendor status is very "loose" anyway. Anyone who gives a SHlT about this forum should go back and delete all their crap that does not pertain to this man's question. Seriously! PMs work for sidebar comment...