Why does the Evo8 no longer compete?
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This is more of a sports sponsorship issue than a car issue...
mitsubishi team hasn't fielded a team since 1999, probably some financial issues caused this problem. I don't even think they rallied with their Evo7 Rally concept car that came out in 2001. It also doesn't help the world's best driver, Tommi Mackinen, left the team in the late 90s as well.
Subaru has always had a team throughout this time. To my recollection they have been competitive but just not winning.
mitsubishi team hasn't fielded a team since 1999, probably some financial issues caused this problem. I don't even think they rallied with their Evo7 Rally concept car that came out in 2001. It also doesn't help the world's best driver, Tommi Mackinen, left the team in the late 90s as well.
Subaru has always had a team throughout this time. To my recollection they have been competitive but just not winning.
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If you guys watch WRC on Speed you can see that the main reason Mitsu doesn't do well is because of all mechanical problems and driver errors. On some stages, Mitsu actually had the fastest times which means car could be very competitive.
Similar for Subaru, they lost sh1tl0ad of time with problems when running through water puddles etc. plus Petter is a better driver than the Mitsu guy.
Peugeot/Citroen cars are superior because they had less issues and mated with a good driver they win races.
You can also see in Formula 1 how french cars started to dominate. They build good cars.
Similar for Subaru, they lost sh1tl0ad of time with problems when running through water puddles etc. plus Petter is a better driver than the Mitsu guy.
Peugeot/Citroen cars are superior because they had less issues and mated with a good driver they win races.
You can also see in Formula 1 how french cars started to dominate. They build good cars.
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Evos and STis still pwn Group N.
I wholeheartedly agree that Group A should be brought back. I remember the first time I saw an Ur-quattro coupe on the street in Germany ... I was like "OMG!!" ... and now, over 20 years later I own an indirect descendant in my Evo, and everytime I drive it, I'm still like "OMG!! What an incredible car!" and I thank my lucky stars for the WRC of yesteryear.
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I wholeheartedly agree that Group A should be brought back. I remember the first time I saw an Ur-quattro coupe on the street in Germany ... I was like "OMG!!" ... and now, over 20 years later I own an indirect descendant in my Evo, and everytime I drive it, I'm still like "OMG!! What an incredible car!" and I thank my lucky stars for the WRC of yesteryear.
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Originally Posted by Soon 2 B EVIL
well i cant wait till gets back into WRC and i cant wait for Toyota to get back in it as well. I htink they are coming back in 07 or 08 with a AWD turbo corolla.
They've definitely proven that the car is fast and competitive. A lot of their earlier low points finishes are due to team orders--finish in the points and don't wreck the car.
Things should get very interesting next year. Pugeot and Citroen are dropping out of WRC competition This means their drivers will probably be looking for new teams (I'd love to see Gronholm behind the wheel of a Lancer). Also, there will be a lot of rule changes intended to decrease the build/operation costs of the cars, which will hopefully get more manufacturers in the competition. Subaru has already done some testing of their new "stripped down" (relatively speaking) '06 car.
Go to www.wrc.com for videos and latest news.
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Originally Posted by hueman
I'm confused when i read posts in this thread talking about mitsu taking a break or not competing this year in wrc????
They're competing, and doing fairly well for a team with a brand new car.
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I feel good enough knowing out evos are homologated after one of the most dominate platforms in WRC history. Mitsu is not exploting the technology that other teams are using because of the new rule changes that go into effect. They may dominate WRC next year.
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Over here in NZ, any privateer runs an Evo or a WRX. They dominate the non WRC competitions.
I think it comes down to money. Subaru and Mitsi can't compete financilly compared to the big boys like ford. I don't know for sure but I would imagine the budgets behind those winning teams are huge.
I think it comes down to money. Subaru and Mitsi can't compete financilly compared to the big boys like ford. I don't know for sure but I would imagine the budgets behind those winning teams are huge.
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Originally Posted by justchil
i would buy a 2 door pocket evo
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/articles/sportback.asp
Not what I had in mind
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Originally Posted by hueman
I'm confused when i read posts in this thread talking about mitsu taking a break or not competing this year in wrc????
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Originally Posted by Soon 2 B EVIL
well i cant wait till gets back into WRC and i cant wait for Toyota to get back in it as well. I htink they are coming back in 07 or 08 with a AWD turbo corolla.