FQ400 Question ...
May 5, 2006, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MrFairlady
I believe so....but also can handle the power due to the CAST Iron Block...the EJ20 and EJ25 do not have that either
I was told the 4G63 was pretty much the "4cyl equivalent" to the Mighty 2JZ(cast Iron Block also).
I was told the 4G63 was pretty much the "4cyl equivalent" to the Mighty 2JZ(cast Iron Block also).
man... the 4g63 is so crazy.. look at the abilities of it....
4g63t
2jze-gte
rb26dett
ALL SAME CLASS / Level.
these motors are unbelivably greatly made with endless abilities.
May 5, 2006, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mmelmann
Yeah, but I'm not comparing a modified FQ-400 vs. a modified IX. I'm saying that if you want to have an Evo that will hold it's own against cars such as a Gallardo... an Evo IX MR with two mods (full exhaust and say a Vishnu tuned Ecutek) for less than $2K on top of the original purchase price will basically suffice... you just wouldn't have the AYC.
If you want to build a 4G63T that's as bullet-proof as the one in the FQ-400 and that can make as much power without any downsides, then you'll be spending FAR more than $2000. And we're still not even taking into consideratin the 6-puck racing clutch, 6-piston Alcon mono-block calipers, etc., etc. The front brake kit alone goes for just over $6000.
Originally Posted by Mmelmann
A FQ-400 is not a 600 hp car basically... it's a 400 hp car that costs over $50,000
An Evo IX is not a 400 hp car.... but it can be for less than $2,000 in mods... so the grand total is about $36,000 more or less to get a "400 hp" Evo.
An Evo IX is not a 400 hp car.... but it can be for less than $2,000 in mods... so the grand total is about $36,000 more or less to get a "400 hp" Evo.
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May 5, 2006, 05:44 PM
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I don't think anyone is arguing with you.... Just different point being made around power comparisons to the ACTUAL level of the FQ-400 as tested, etc... Why would anyone be arguing with you that a big turbo with a built motor can be tuned for more than 400?
Not sure how a 400 crank HP evo is viewed as maxed out within an inch of it's life... With the loss % of AWD there are hundreds and hundreds of EVOs that have 400 CRANK HP on pump...
Not sure how a 400 crank HP evo is viewed as maxed out within an inch of it's life... With the loss % of AWD there are hundreds and hundreds of EVOs that have 400 CRANK HP on pump...
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May 5, 2006, 10:09 PM
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wait so does a IX have forged internals? the FQ is def one of my favorite cars out there period basically the only car you have to worry about encountering is the new z06 600hp w/ cams exhaust no way the fq can touch it
May 6, 2006, 05:30 AM
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So I did some digging and reading on the FQ400 and it apparently does use stock cams and stock FMIC...
The stats are:
405bhp at 6,400rpm and 355lb ft of torque at 5,500pm (at the crank)
0-60mph in 3.5 seconds and 0-100mph in 9.1sec
7,400rpm rev limiter
max speed 175mph
I have been reading all over the net and it seems that while it is highly respected, many try to build beyond it's HP and especially TQ numbers with basic mods on the standard EVOs. No different than the sentiment here... I am sure there are quite a few EVOs stateside that have ~400hp and 355TQ at the crank and beyond without a new turbo...
It seems that the investment on the internals for such low TQ and HP output that is easily handled by the stock internals was to ensure the warranty could be sold.
It seems they used stock cams for emissions reasons. No doubt you could take an FQ400 and add some CAMs, a nice FMIC and a test pipe and see huge numbers... The other reason I have read is to keep TQ down to reduce damage to the drive train for added safety...
Looking at those numbers we can see how easily we can achieve beyond those results without a turbo, etc...
I am not sure how the FQ400 can achieve the 600WHP numbers with the stock FMIC and CAMs as someone else said... I would suspect such power on the FQ400 was with cams and other modifications as I think even Owens added cams to achieve the FQ450 (not 100% sure but I did read that somewhere)...
The stats are:
405bhp at 6,400rpm and 355lb ft of torque at 5,500pm (at the crank)
0-60mph in 3.5 seconds and 0-100mph in 9.1sec
7,400rpm rev limiter
max speed 175mph
I have been reading all over the net and it seems that while it is highly respected, many try to build beyond it's HP and especially TQ numbers with basic mods on the standard EVOs. No different than the sentiment here... I am sure there are quite a few EVOs stateside that have ~400hp and 355TQ at the crank and beyond without a new turbo...
It seems that the investment on the internals for such low TQ and HP output that is easily handled by the stock internals was to ensure the warranty could be sold.
It seems they used stock cams for emissions reasons. No doubt you could take an FQ400 and add some CAMs, a nice FMIC and a test pipe and see huge numbers... The other reason I have read is to keep TQ down to reduce damage to the drive train for added safety...
Looking at those numbers we can see how easily we can achieve beyond those results without a turbo, etc...
I am not sure how the FQ400 can achieve the 600WHP numbers with the stock FMIC and CAMs as someone else said... I would suspect such power on the FQ400 was with cams and other modifications as I think even Owens added cams to achieve the FQ450 (not 100% sure but I did read that somewhere)...
May 6, 2006, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Kayaalp
The FQ-400 is a 400 hp car that can make 600 hp with ZERO mods (and still maintain a full warranty). If you don't see the difference, then we're just not seeing eye-to-eye on this.
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All warranty things aside... I've got a 400 bhp Evo IX and I couldn't be happier with it. My mods haven't kept me from recieving any warranty work thus far. (for some reason my motor leaked oil but, it's being taken care of by the dealership)
The thing is... an Evo IX with an exhaust and an ecu tune can basically get the same job done as a stock FQ-400 without all the nice expensive upgraded stuff. What's to argue with that? Nothing... that's freakin awesome. Silly Canadeeooonnsss
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The key to the MR FQ400's performance lies not just in its engine, but also in its sophisticated chassis. Like every car in the Evolution VIII MR (Mitsubishi Racing) range, the FQ400 benefits from Mitsubishi's electronically-controlled four-wheel drive system (4WD) and a Bilstein suspension system honed at the legendary Nurburgring Nordschleife racetrack. The introduction of a new braking system on the FQ400 also ensures that it has the ‘stop' to match its ‘go'.
Jun 8, 2006, 02:09 PM
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Mitsubishi Motors UK has taken the wraps off the fastest saloon car ever produced by a major manufacturer. Built to celebrate the thirtieth anniversary of Mitsubishi's entry into the UK market, the new Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ400 will be built in a limited edition run of just 100 cars, and is available to order now priced £46,999 (approx. $85,000).
The car was the brainchild of Mitsubishi Motors UK's Sales & Marketing Director, Lance Bradley. 'The new Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ400 is the ultimate expression of who and what we are as a brand. This is a versatile four-door saloon that can out accelerate supercars costing almost ten times as much.'
The new model is based on the Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ320 and was developed in the UK by Mitsubishi Motors UK's motor sports department, in association with tuning specialists Rampage, Owen Developments and Flow Race Engines. Together, they modified the Lancer's legendary 2.0-litre turbocharged engine so that it now produces a mighty 405 bhp and 355 lb-ft of torque.
This is enough to propel the FQ400 from 0-60 mph in an incredible 3.5 seconds and on to a top speed in excess of 175 mph. It is a performance that even some of the world's most exotic supercars struggle to match. The £330,000 Porsche Carrera GT, for example, requires 3.9 seconds to sprint from 0-62 mph, while the ultra-exclusive Pagani Zonda needs 3.7 seconds. The BMW M3 – hitherto the benchmark ‘everyday supercar' – takes 5.3 seconds to achieve the same feat.
The key to the MR FQ400's performance lies not just in its engine, but also in its sophisticated chassis. Like every car in the Evolution VIII MR (Mitsubishi Racing) range, the FQ400 benefits from Mitsubishi's electronically-controlled four-wheel drive system (4WD) and a Bilstein suspension system honed at the legendary Nurburgring Nordschleife racetrack. The introduction of a new braking system on the FQ400 also ensures that it has the ‘stop' to match its ‘go'.
Subtle aesthetic enhancements differentiate the FQ400 from the rest of the MR range and improve its high-speed stability. Ralliart aero mirrors, a carbon fibre front lip spoiler and a ‘sharks tooth' rear vortex generator, are as functional as they are attractive. And it further benefits from gloss black lightweight Team Dynamics alloy wheels and red ‘FQ400' badging.
Inside, the sporting, focussed theme continues with a Momo steering wheel and Recaro bucket seats. The fascia has carbon fibre detailing and there's a discreet plaque next to the gearstick, which reveals the car's production number. The ambience is purposeful but the FQ400 is no stripped out road racer. Electric windows and mirrors and climate control are all fitted as standard, highlighting the Lancer's appeal as the world's most practical and versatile supercar.
As befits its status as an official Mitsubishi Motors UK product, the FQ400 has undergone extensive reliability testing and is supplied with a three years/36,000 mile manufacturer's warranty. This exciting flagship can be ordered now from approved Mitsubishi Ralliart dealers in the UK.
Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ400 parts list:
Custom built Garrett GT Dual Ball bearing Turbocharger
Owen Developments custom manufactured cast Stainless Steel Exhaust Manifold and Exhaust Elbow
Omega Forged Pistons
HKS Forged Con Rods
HKS 680cc Injectors
Zytec ITP116 High Pressure Fuel Pump
HKS 1.6 mm Steel Head Gasket
Motec M800 OEM ECU
HKS Iridium Spark Plugs
Jan Speed High Flow Sports Cat
Alcon competition derived 240 mm high clamp mode, heavy duty clutch complete with Cera-metallic 6 paddle sprung centred drive plate
HKS High Strength Head and Big End Bolts
Alcon Mono6 Brake Kit incorporating Monobloc 6 pot road caliper with 343 mm curved vein Disc on a Aluminium mounting bell assembly with Ferodo DS2500 brake pads
Ralliart Aero Mirrors
Carbon Fibre Front Lip Spoiler
Carbon Fibre 'Sharks Tooth' Rear Vortex Generator
PIAA High Performance Light and Wiper Upgrade
Gloss Black Team Dynamics Lightweight Alloy Wheels
Driver Training Course
The car was the brainchild of Mitsubishi Motors UK's Sales & Marketing Director, Lance Bradley. 'The new Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ400 is the ultimate expression of who and what we are as a brand. This is a versatile four-door saloon that can out accelerate supercars costing almost ten times as much.'
The new model is based on the Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ320 and was developed in the UK by Mitsubishi Motors UK's motor sports department, in association with tuning specialists Rampage, Owen Developments and Flow Race Engines. Together, they modified the Lancer's legendary 2.0-litre turbocharged engine so that it now produces a mighty 405 bhp and 355 lb-ft of torque.
This is enough to propel the FQ400 from 0-60 mph in an incredible 3.5 seconds and on to a top speed in excess of 175 mph. It is a performance that even some of the world's most exotic supercars struggle to match. The £330,000 Porsche Carrera GT, for example, requires 3.9 seconds to sprint from 0-62 mph, while the ultra-exclusive Pagani Zonda needs 3.7 seconds. The BMW M3 – hitherto the benchmark ‘everyday supercar' – takes 5.3 seconds to achieve the same feat.
The key to the MR FQ400's performance lies not just in its engine, but also in its sophisticated chassis. Like every car in the Evolution VIII MR (Mitsubishi Racing) range, the FQ400 benefits from Mitsubishi's electronically-controlled four-wheel drive system (4WD) and a Bilstein suspension system honed at the legendary Nurburgring Nordschleife racetrack. The introduction of a new braking system on the FQ400 also ensures that it has the ‘stop' to match its ‘go'.
Subtle aesthetic enhancements differentiate the FQ400 from the rest of the MR range and improve its high-speed stability. Ralliart aero mirrors, a carbon fibre front lip spoiler and a ‘sharks tooth' rear vortex generator, are as functional as they are attractive. And it further benefits from gloss black lightweight Team Dynamics alloy wheels and red ‘FQ400' badging.
Inside, the sporting, focussed theme continues with a Momo steering wheel and Recaro bucket seats. The fascia has carbon fibre detailing and there's a discreet plaque next to the gearstick, which reveals the car's production number. The ambience is purposeful but the FQ400 is no stripped out road racer. Electric windows and mirrors and climate control are all fitted as standard, highlighting the Lancer's appeal as the world's most practical and versatile supercar.
As befits its status as an official Mitsubishi Motors UK product, the FQ400 has undergone extensive reliability testing and is supplied with a three years/36,000 mile manufacturer's warranty. This exciting flagship can be ordered now from approved Mitsubishi Ralliart dealers in the UK.
Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ400 parts list:
Custom built Garrett GT Dual Ball bearing Turbocharger
Owen Developments custom manufactured cast Stainless Steel Exhaust Manifold and Exhaust Elbow
Omega Forged Pistons
HKS Forged Con Rods
HKS 680cc Injectors
Zytec ITP116 High Pressure Fuel Pump
HKS 1.6 mm Steel Head Gasket
Motec M800 OEM ECU
HKS Iridium Spark Plugs
Jan Speed High Flow Sports Cat
Alcon competition derived 240 mm high clamp mode, heavy duty clutch complete with Cera-metallic 6 paddle sprung centred drive plate
HKS High Strength Head and Big End Bolts
Alcon Mono6 Brake Kit incorporating Monobloc 6 pot road caliper with 343 mm curved vein Disc on a Aluminium mounting bell assembly with Ferodo DS2500 brake pads
Ralliart Aero Mirrors
Carbon Fibre Front Lip Spoiler
Carbon Fibre 'Sharks Tooth' Rear Vortex Generator
PIAA High Performance Light and Wiper Upgrade
Gloss Black Team Dynamics Lightweight Alloy Wheels
Driver Training Course
Jun 8, 2006, 02:12 PM
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2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-400
Year 2005
Make Mitsubishi
Model Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-400
Engine Location Front
Drive Type 4WD
Price $86,000.00
Performance
0-60 mph 3.5 seconds.
Top Speed 175 mph | 281.6 km/h
Engine
Engine Configuration I
Cylinders 4
Aspiration/Induction Turbocharged
Displacement 2.00 L | 122 cu in. | 1999.6 cc.
Horsepower 405.00 BHP (298.1 KW)
Torque 355.00 Ft-Lbs (481.4 NM)
HP / Liter 202.5 BHP / Liter
Standard Transmission
Transmission Manual
Dimensions
Seating Capacity 4
Doors 4
Produced 100
Exterior
Length 175.101 in | 4447.6 mm.
Width 69.001 in | 1752.6 mm.
Height 56.601 in | 1437.7 mm.
Wheelbase 102.401 in | 2601 mm.
Suspension
Suspension Bilstein suspension
Brakes
Front Brakes Disc
Rear Brakes Disc
Year 2005
Make Mitsubishi
Model Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-400
Engine Location Front
Drive Type 4WD
Price $86,000.00
Performance
0-60 mph 3.5 seconds.
Top Speed 175 mph | 281.6 km/h
Engine
Engine Configuration I
Cylinders 4
Aspiration/Induction Turbocharged
Displacement 2.00 L | 122 cu in. | 1999.6 cc.
Horsepower 405.00 BHP (298.1 KW)
Torque 355.00 Ft-Lbs (481.4 NM)
HP / Liter 202.5 BHP / Liter
Standard Transmission
Transmission Manual
Dimensions
Seating Capacity 4
Doors 4
Produced 100
Exterior
Length 175.101 in | 4447.6 mm.
Width 69.001 in | 1752.6 mm.
Height 56.601 in | 1437.7 mm.
Wheelbase 102.401 in | 2601 mm.
Suspension
Suspension Bilstein suspension
Brakes
Front Brakes Disc
Rear Brakes Disc
Jun 8, 2006, 02:18 PM
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2006 Aston Martin V8 Vantage 2005 Honda NSX-R GT
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2003 Porsche TechArt Cayenne Turbo
2002 TVR T350
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2000 Ultima Spyder
1999 Lotus Esprit S350
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1992 Ascari FG-T
1986 Porsche Fabcar GTP-L
1969 Ferrari 365 GTS
1967 Ferrari 500 Superfast
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