I remember I was reading a couple of month ago on Mitsubishi web site that Evolution will be coming with front seats equipped with 5-point seat belt. Evo is out and what I see now in the feature list is that all seats have 3-point belts. Was I hallucinating about 5 points or did they make some last-minute changes? Does anyone know more about this story?

 

I think you mis-read it...it should be "equipped with the Recaro seats that can accomodate 5-point harness" ...

 

But even that might not be right because when I first got in my EVO, I checked for the requisite submarine belt slot in the seat bottom only to be disappointed in finding it wasn't there. That's easily fixed, of course, I was just hoping the seat was already made for it. It seems to be "4-point" harness ready.

Thomas Dorris

 

I'm pretty sure that what Lan Evo said above is correct.....cept that the brochure actually mentioned 4-point harness readiness, not 5 point.

SC~

 

There doesn't need to be a slot in the bottom for the lower strap, it can go over and aroud the bottom. The big question is, check and see if there's a place to attach the bottom belt somewhere either underneath the seat or on the floor.

 

who the hell would want to strap themselves into a 4-5 point harness without a rollcage. I would imagine (look at the car of the guy who's wife rolled it - now imagine rolling just a bit harder) the top will fold quickly if given the chance.... your neck is not made out of rubber ya know.

Leave the harnesses for the real racecars.... street driving with a harness on makes you look stupid anyway.

 

Who said anything about driving on the street with the harness and who said it would be installed without a rollbar? I think the topic is only asking about readiness.

Thomas Dorris

 

Good point. It doesn't have to go through the seat. I prefer it, but that may just be a preference. The Sparco seats I run in my Talon have the cut out for it in the seat. I run the belt through there and attach to an appropriate mounting point drilled through the floor. (And I *have* a rollbar in the Talon, too. Geesh).

BTW, if it does't attach under the seat or on the floor, where would you attach it? <- Ignore this question. I misunderstood the original statement. I'm curious too about mounting points.

Thomas Dorris

 

Mega is right.....

Using a harness in your car when you do not have a rollcage also is quite dangerous. You are very prone to neck injuries during rollovers.

In most amature racing, autox, roadcourse events...etc, you are forbidden from using a harness unless you also have a cage fitted.

Plus, if you used a harness in your car on a daily basis, and you are using it correctly, you would be strapped into the seat so tightly that you would never be able to reach the radio or any other buttons on your dash.....

SC~

 

Good point. I just assumed....my bad....

But...if someone is going through the legnths of installing a rollcage a new seat would be in order anyway....The stock seat is not really a racing seat is it? It seems like it would weigh a ton more than a real racing seat, and real racing seats don't seem to be that plush. so it would need replaced - Moot point about the harness issue.

 

Well, the originating post certainly leads one to that conclusion. It's asking about 5-point belts from the factory. They certainly wouldn't do that without serious roof/pillar re-inforcements.

That said, I would still consider keeping these seats even if/when I install a rollbar. They just fit the car so well, I'd hate to see them go. And they aren't all *that* heavy, from appearance anyway. Certainly not as heavy as the 80-lb power adjustable leather seats that came out of my Talon. :-(

Anybody else wonder if the incredible head room provided in the EVO might just be there to encourage the installation of a rollcage? I've seen several shots of the EVO parked next to various other cars...that roof is *really* high.

Thomas Dorris

 

Ya I know some people don't like it but I have already plans to take my car to the track in June. I heard some issues of legalities of 4 point and 5 point seatbelts and since my car is a daily driver, can anyone point a good place online perhaps or brands of 4point or 5 point harnesses that i could get my evo. My neighbors races his Z06 and told me that there was some law issues and gave me a place that had legal ones but i lost the paper. any help thanks.

 

It's not just that "some people don't like it". Most tracks will not even allow you to use a 4-5 pt harness without a rollcage.

But if you insist on endangering yourself, and spending money on a harness that you will probably have to remove before you track your car, www.summitracing.com sells harnesses.

Obsoleteasian, where will you be racing in June? With what group?

SC~

 

i cant wait to see some bolt on roll cages for this car...preferably without much loss in headroom or useability...<is that a word>hahah

 

This method is very wrong. If you want a submarine belt, you should definitely have a hole for it right below your spine cord, on the seat.
You should never ever have a submarine belt go around the front of the seat to the buckle point, this totally defeats the purpose of it. If you want a 5-pt harness, you need to do it right: roll cage, race seats with appropriate grommets to accomodate for the belts, secure anchor points for the shoulder belts that are less than 45 degrees angled from the horizontal line, etc... etc...

A lot of precautions need to be taken to ensure full safety in case of an accident. Just remember that when you decide to buy that 5-pt harness.

Karl