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May 9, 2006, 09:15 AM
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Evo.
Handles MUCH better. Way cheaper to mod, just more useable.
I sold my 450+ HP 97 GSX to get the evo. Though I miss the power of the GSX at times, it's the best choice I made. Plus in time the Evo will have more then the GSX id and still be more reliable.
Handles MUCH better. Way cheaper to mod, just more useable.
I sold my 450+ HP 97 GSX to get the evo. Though I miss the power of the GSX at times, it's the best choice I made. Plus in time the Evo will have more then the GSX id and still be more reliable.
May 9, 2006, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rcheung
A 3000 GT VR4 is not a "first highschool car". I believe your thinking of the SL model or the base model. Even now VR4's are uber expensive considering their age. That being said twin turbo all wheel drive with a six speed getrag tranny is pretty damn sweet. I owned a 3gt before and high end I dont think a stock evo will be able to catch up. However in the twisties the 3GT will be lost.
Let me brake you justifications down for this not being a perfect example of this being a "first car". Twin turbo has been proven ineffecient with the introduction of new turbo technology, having 2 turbos is in no way superior to having 1 turbo at this point in time. Therefore, it pisses me off when people are like, "oh it's TWIN turbo" I'm like, "good thing there isn't one benefit to having 2 turbos over 1." The only excuse for a modern car to have more then 1 turbo is if the engine is so big that 1 manifold can't cover it. And don't even pretend like AWD is a huge performance benchmark, TONS of cars come standard now with AWD, and AWD is safer for a 16 year old to drive then any other drivetrain. Let me go to any local highschool and count all the 20v turbo A4's in the parking lot, PAlease. And who cares about 6 speeds, even if it did have one. My Evo isn't 6 speed, so is it a lower end car then a 3000gt vr4? Common.
I understand it is a decent car, but if you have the chance to upgrade, DO IT.
May 9, 2006, 09:31 AM
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Since you have the 93, dump that hog! I am a big fan of the VR4, and it was my "dream car", 97-99 model until the evo came out in the U.S. But the one you have is an antique in a bad way. Not even very attractive looking. You will love the decision of getting an evo! If you are patient, you can probably get a good deal on selling that over weight slug you have. 
May 9, 2006, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo#1
^ sounds like you have never been in a modded 3000gt
Which BTW is much better looking then any 3000gt.
Anyway, i'm not going to lie, i was looking at a 3000gt vr4 as a serious option for my first car, but i just couldn't get over the hideous looks.
May 9, 2006, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Karash
Hey a VR4 is a serious car. I dont know why people are disrespecting it here...but for the mid 90s it was a beast. That said, I think the Evo is a better car
May 9, 2006, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by evodrifter
I owned a VR4 and I hated working on them. I also would like to say that the evo is much nicer, and would be worth the switch in every way.
May 9, 2006, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroked_VR4
Well when yall put it this way it seems like a no brainer, even given the bias it stills seems perfect. Are there many defects to the EVO? Week points?
May 9, 2006, 03:00 PM
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wow,
lots of VR4 dissing going on here. i can understand the points, i had three VR4s (still have one) and have had an evo for about a year now. yes the VR4s are super heavy, but you can get them light without too much work...many people on 3si are in the 3300 range. the twin turbos are super tiny but spool up like nobody's business, so the advantage of having two turbos over one is spool time. as for looks, everyone has an opinion. i personally thing the 99VR4 is one of the nicest looking cars out there. anyone can do a 99 conversion, and i would trade my evo in a second for a real 99 VR4 (w/same miles). the VR4s were meant to be grand touring cars, and have lots of other options that the evos dont have, like the power seats, auto climate, active exhaust, active suspension, active aero, and the list goes on. that being said, i love my evo and would definetely suggest upgrading. i dont like the looks as much, but the reliability and nibleness more than make up for it.
lots of VR4 dissing going on here. i can understand the points, i had three VR4s (still have one) and have had an evo for about a year now. yes the VR4s are super heavy, but you can get them light without too much work...many people on 3si are in the 3300 range. the twin turbos are super tiny but spool up like nobody's business, so the advantage of having two turbos over one is spool time. as for looks, everyone has an opinion. i personally thing the 99VR4 is one of the nicest looking cars out there. anyone can do a 99 conversion, and i would trade my evo in a second for a real 99 VR4 (w/same miles). the VR4s were meant to be grand touring cars, and have lots of other options that the evos dont have, like the power seats, auto climate, active exhaust, active suspension, active aero, and the list goes on. that being said, i love my evo and would definetely suggest upgrading. i dont like the looks as much, but the reliability and nibleness more than make up for it.