My Ride With Tarzan Yamada in the Cyber Evo
May 16, 2006, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jid2
Guy above... are you JDM? What people are saying is that in the big World of racing people run the best parts they can find, period. Sure the JGTC is cool, but it is not the the most respected or advanced racing league in the world. And that is fact.
And if you think Tein is so sweet and that the real suspension makers such as: Penske, Ohlins, Extreme, Moton and so forth are crap... well good luck to you.
And if you think Tein is so sweet and that the real suspension makers such as: Penske, Ohlins, Extreme, Moton and so forth are crap... well good luck to you.
Second, I never said penske was crap. Please re-read what i said.
Thirdy, I never said JGTC is the best racing league out there.
Lastly, stop putting words in my mouth.
Thank you
May 16, 2006, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGVR4kid
Ummm. You must have forgotten the Y-series V8's in the Nissan cars, Toyota's 4.0 and 4.3L V8's, the V12 that came in the Toyota Century, tons and tons of V8 engines made in Japan and used in the Japanese market, many of them exclusively.
May 16, 2006, 09:11 AM
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Just so you know... The JDM Favorite Takata Dome NSX runs:
Alcon brakes and Showa suspension. No Project Mu, Endless, Tein or Tanabe in sight!
http://www.dome.co.jp/e/race/car/03nsx.html
More JGTC equipment.
Alcon brakes and Showa suspension. No Project Mu, Endless, Tein or Tanabe in sight!
http://www.dome.co.jp/e/race/car/03nsx.html
More JGTC equipment.
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May 16, 2006, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Phenix_fyah
They use Japanese components but are not made in Japan.
The 2UZ-FE is a 4.7*L (4663*cc) version built in Tahara, Japan.
The 3UZ-FE is a 4.3*L (4292*cc) version built in Japan.
The 4.5*L (4494*cc) VK45DE was introduced in 2002 and is built in Yokohama, Japan.
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May 16, 2006, 09:27 AM
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Very cool day for you. Tarzan is a well respected driver by a lot of people. I have nothing to compare to him to but see his name around a lot.
I was told this weekend that the Cyber EVO is suppose to be at our next Time Attack Event at Summit Point. I am really looking forward to running against it.
I was told this weekend that the Cyber EVO is suppose to be at our next Time Attack Event at Summit Point. I am really looking forward to running against it.
May 16, 2006, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Very cool day for you. Tarzan is a well respected driver by a lot of people. I have nothing to compare to him to but see his name around a lot.
I was told this weekend that the Cyber EVO is suppose to be at our next Time Attack Event at Summit Point. I am really looking forward to running against it.
I was told this weekend that the Cyber EVO is suppose to be at our next Time Attack Event at Summit Point. I am really looking forward to running against it.
May 16, 2006, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Thats funny cause some of the best jgtc cars use endless and project mu same with rotora. But ok thats your opinion, moving on.
Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Your kidding me right? Their suspension rivals some of the best coming out of germany and italy. Compaines like tein, JIC, Tanabe are some of the best in the world. And again I guess it would dependon what kind of driving your doing.
Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
On the contrary, I dont know if you have been there, but Japan has the 2nd worlds biggest economy. Number 1 is the US by far and number 3 is China. The people there are for the most part very well off. Living conditions are a problem there, but thats not due to poverty its due to resource. Japans landmass is about the size of california and they have over 125million people. California has around 40million and its nearlyimposible to buy a house here in socal and in san francisco average 3bed 2 bath house in SD costs around 550,000. Get the picture? And most land in japan is prime property due to location.
Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Umm I dont know about you but most of the cars with over 300,000 mileson them are either toyotas, hondas, or nissans. Fords have problems just getting to 150,000. Same with most US motor companies like GM and Chrysler. Japanese engine designs have always been about most bang for the buck all while being conservative because last time I checked Japan has 0 oil fields. So fuel conservation and efficiency is a big deal to them. Which is why they mostly use diesel because the first diesel engine was designed to run on cooking oil. As far as tubos are concerned look up Greddy(aka trust) they have a bolt on turbo kit for the scion tc producing over 300whp for less than 3grand. All turbos are made off of either precision, innovate, or garrets design. Even turbonetics are in essence knock offs from garret. However, the japanese constantly take what we invented and make it better. I know this is a little off topic, but look at all their electronic departments such as tvs, dvd players, cameras, computers, etc etc. All of them are better. Same goes for engie components and ems systems with the exception for maybe the electromotive stuff.
Originally Posted by value
Usual hater post. If they are so bad how do they always destroy track records. Reading your post it is obvious you have never lived in Japan.
Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Dude, Lemans is a totally different class of vehicles then what japan produces and markets. Lemans is basically a supercar series. Most actually all cars in that race are V8 and above. And therefore japanese cars arent even in its class. So please get a clue buddy. Thats like me comparing the jgtc cars to the pro fwd ion with Lisa Kubo. I mean it doesnt make sense bud.
Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
HAHAHA you must be a nascar fan huh? I knew some kid would say the jgtc cars are using penske suspension. I suppose they are using ford and dodge engines too huh? They arent using penskies. Please show me a link to where it says the takata NSX is using a penske suspension which isnt even designed for jgtc racing its designed for strictly nascars.
Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Umm no I didnt forget any of those engines. And I said japan banned these engines I never said they were ever made. However, the toyota F-series engines you are talking about were ONLY made from 1948-92 and cancelled production. The GZ series is a very rare and specialty engine. And the V8 engines you are talking about with nissan like I said before but you arent listening those engines are strictly produced for the US in the US. Those engines are actually made in the US. Also another interesting fact you may not know is that most domestic engines are made and assembled in japan. For instance, alot of the Ford engines were actually mazda engines. Its funny when people think they are buying an american car when infact they are buying a japanese car. HAHA
May 16, 2006, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGVR4kid
I'd say your arguement holds about as much water as a pair of assless chaps.
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Originally Posted by nils
lol.. this is funny.
May 16, 2006, 10:44 AM
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[QUOTE=trinydex]this is really ignorant. you're an engineer, go look at my thread on rotor engineering in the advanced section. look at the facts. the FACT is that the jdm rotors are not designed with very much of anything in terms of vaning, nothing clever... this is like the overhead valve overhead cam thing... technology good *grunt grunt*. and this first response really shows how much of a blind fan boy you are.
this is incorrect. i don't even know if i should cite why it's incorrect because i don't know if you know enough about suspension design. read the penske service manuals that djazair posted up. you will see that the jdm companies that service the enthusiast world are not making world class suspension and certainly NOT selling world class suspension to YOU if they did.
dude... you're speaking from macroscopic gnp gdp numbers, and also for the most part real estate is the biggest EXPENSE of most people... so are you not agreeing with me then? i said by and large MOST japanese people are not the hardcore race car building guys that you see. have you ever seen the 4ag n1 competition? some of those guys are REALLY not rich... they race the 4ags and the fits for a reason. i can't even believe you're arguing with me actually.
FYI,
In japan you are taxed alot if you have an older car....therefore it is cheaper for them to get rid of them....and use it for spare parts etc......that is why it is cheaper for them to sup up their cars....also most youngsters in japan are into tuning and etc....its not like some 50 year old grand pa is going to sup up his car.... most common japanese person drives a new car every two years or just ride bus, train etc....
this is incorrect. i don't even know if i should cite why it's incorrect because i don't know if you know enough about suspension design. read the penske service manuals that djazair posted up. you will see that the jdm companies that service the enthusiast world are not making world class suspension and certainly NOT selling world class suspension to YOU if they did.
dude... you're speaking from macroscopic gnp gdp numbers, and also for the most part real estate is the biggest EXPENSE of most people... so are you not agreeing with me then? i said by and large MOST japanese people are not the hardcore race car building guys that you see. have you ever seen the 4ag n1 competition? some of those guys are REALLY not rich... they race the 4ags and the fits for a reason. i can't even believe you're arguing with me actually.
FYI,
In japan you are taxed alot if you have an older car....therefore it is cheaper for them to get rid of them....and use it for spare parts etc......that is why it is cheaper for them to sup up their cars....also most youngsters in japan are into tuning and etc....its not like some 50 year old grand pa is going to sup up his car.... most common japanese person drives a new car every two years or just ride bus, train etc....
May 16, 2006, 11:07 AM
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I also had a chance to ride with Tarzan and talk to the mechanics. They use the Yokohama ADVAN A048, relatively stock breaks, and a surprising suspension setup. The car was very detuned for the Sim Races. The car was only running 1.5BAR and he wasn't reving past 6000RPM. I will post some pictures later.
