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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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20g question for EVO 9

Well i was thinkin i got a evo 9 and i dont know if this has been discussed alraedy but im thinkin on adding a 20g turbo now with the basic mods, tbe, intake, alky, mbc reflash/tune and exhaust cams how much power do u think u can make out of it
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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The 20g is just your turbo with a new wheel. Not the best idea. You would be able to make the same power that other 20g's make, but it's not really meant to be used except for when r unning high boost on the time, which would require alky injection (as you listed). Your stock IX turbo is the bomb-diggity. If you want to upgrade your turbo, then UPGRADE it. Paying a bunch to switch in a new wheel isn't worth the minimal gains you'll get, imo. But, if you do decide to do it, then I'll buy your stock turbo, kthx..
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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lol Warrtalon and the phrase bomb-diggity...seeing how he is very precise with his grammer I wasn't expecting that at all.
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I think the question should be is what is your goal on horse power? With the set up that you mention, I think the IX will get over 330 whp on the stock IX turbo easily. I believe that the 20g-9 turbo is rated at 450 hp on turbochargers.com or turbokits.com, but I've heard that if you get the 5 blade from Buscher Racing, it'll spool up more hp.
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The setup he mentioned with alky will do 370-380whp on his IX with a custom tune. Also, referring to 450hp doesn't help us much, because that's not WHP.

Chaotichoax, it's "grammar."
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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im basically lookin to get close to 400 i already dynoed 343hp 337tq with tbe, mbc, intake, walbro pump.Im now adding alky kid and 272's exhaust cam also apr head studs but i dont know how close i can get to that number i also dont wanna F*ck anything up either
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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Hey Warr,

Your really wanting that 9 turbo aren't you? lol

i have a friend with a 9mr who's doind a 50-trim the car has 3k miles i'll let you know if he wants to sell it.

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Converting it to a 20g won't be worth it as Warr said, the $1000 could be better spent elsewhere. like the clutch your going to be needing in a few thousand miles.
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HP sounds high w/o a tune, whos dyno?
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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HP sounds high w/o a tune, whos dyno?
no i have a tune and flash(pruven performance)
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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ah...makes sense. Well im in the same boat as you, so far people are pointing me towards the 3071 for a pump gas solution.
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Well, White06, you're in great shape then. You already have 343 on pump, so with the alky you'd be in the 370-380whp range like I said. How about instead of doing the single exhaust cam, which hasn't shown to provide much if any gains, and just get the GSC 280s for $599 shipped when they come out in a few weeks? I'm pretty sure you'd be right at 400whp/400wtq where you want to be without touching your already awesome turbo.

Yes, Noogles, I want one badly and want it ASAP before Al shows back up in CO to retune me. Not looking likely, though, since it's next weekend. MMM, 50-trim. My dream setup for the racing I do is a BR 2.3 stroker with BB 50-trim on alky...
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gsc's? hows the idle of the 280 i mean the price sounds good but i mean before i go out and get them i would want to see some people running these you know gotta spend this birthday money wisely this time lol
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Well, White06, you're in great shape then. You already have 343 on pump, so with the alky you'd be in the 370-380whp range like I said. How about instead of doing the single exhaust cam, which hasn't shown to provide much if any gains, and just get the GSC 280s for $599 shipped when they come out in a few weeks? I'm pretty sure you'd be right at 400whp/400wtq where you want to be without touching your already awesome turbo.

Yes, Noogles, I want one badly and want it ASAP before Al shows back up in CO to retune me. Not looking likely, though, since it's next weekend. MMM, 50-trim. My dream setup for the racing I do is a BR 2.3 stroker with BB 50-trim on alky...
yeah im waitin to see what u show/do with a IX turbo man.... cuz thats somethin i would seriously consider if the power output/cost ratio is right..

what do u think a evo with a IX turbo/10.5 hotside + supporting mods (tbe/mbc/fuel pump/02 housing etc) would make? from what ive read a IX turbo would add about 30whp and 30 wtq over an 8... so if a full bolt on 8 is making like 340 awhp lets say, with a IX turbo would u guesstimate 370? and then with alky, ud be over 400 at the wheels..
hmmmmm...
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Yeah turbo won't be off the car for 2 weeks....

GSC's are good cams, and the idle on 280;s isn't all that bad there are a few tricks to get them to idle almost like stock if you have patience, a wideband, and a good logger.

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yeah im waitin to see what u show/do with a IX turbo man.... cuz thats somethin i would seriously consider if the power output/cost ratio is right..

what do u think a evo with a IX turbo/10.5 hotside + supporting mods (tbe/mbc/fuel pump/02 housing etc) would make? from what ive read a IX turbo would add about 30whp and 30 wtq over an 8... so if a full bolt on 8 is making like 340 awhp lets say, with a IX turbo would u guesstimate 370? and then with alky, ud be over 400 at the wheels..
hmmmmm...
400 at the wheels isn't hard with a good tuner and alchy,

My max stock turbo #'s were 407whp 415tq on ~93 octane (91 plus some race gas) and alchy

Thing with the stock setup is no matter what your peak #'s are most cars will be abou the same at 7000rpm. thats just becasue the turbo can't suppor the flow.

but in the midrange on the street it's a blast to drive.

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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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White06, that's why I said to WAIT. They haven't even been released yet. Of course you'd want to see how they run, how much power they make, and how well they idle. That's why I said to wait a few weeks. AMS has a set of them and should be testing them as we speak.

Noogles, we don't know how the GSC 280s idle yet - may not be the same as other brand 280s, especially on the IX.

Dr. SS, the IX may make 30whp/30wtq over a stock 03/04 w/9.8 hotside, but I'd be happy with 20whp over my 05 w/10.5 hotside. I'm mainly interested in if it can sustain more boost at higher rpm than my stocker here at altitude, but I'm not holding my breath.



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