3065 vs BB 50 Trim vs 35R
Jul 19, 2006, 07:01 PM
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3065 vs BB 50 Trim vs 35R
Which turbo would be better suited to make 500WHP. I am trying to decide between the 3 turbos. I don't really plan on running an EMS. I do however plan on running race gas or Meth. I have always wanted a 35R but I'm not sure about the lag.
Jul 20, 2006, 06:11 AM
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Lag is over rated. Seriously if you are looking for a 500WHP car you will have to deal with some lag. Either way with the right computer management that lag won't even be noticeable during a 1/4 mile pass. With stutter box, antilag, and NTLS a big turbo doesn't get a chance to drop out of its sweet spot.
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Jul 20, 2006, 06:23 AM
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antilag obliterates turbo's. its more so used for rally racing to have an advantage on your oponent. since they have big bucks for sponsored races its all gravy when that stuff goes.
Jul 20, 2006, 06:45 AM
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The first question I would like to ask is.... What is your main goal / use going to be with the car?
I love my 3065 on the street and at the track. It really is a great street/strip turbo! We sell alot of 3065 kits and everyone that is running them has had nothing but good things to say about it. I personally would chose and/or recommend the 3065 over a 50trim.
As for the lag..... I noticed it when I first changed over from the stock turbo to the 3065 but now its not even an issue because i'm used to the car. The lag everyone is concerned with really isnt that bad. My car is making 20psi around 4400rpm and full boost around 4700.
My car on 29psi and C16 put down 462whp on our Mustang dyno with a very conservative tune. I am still running the stock block, stock head, stock intake manifold and stock throttlebody. The other modifications done to my car are our stages 1-4 w/ HKS 272 cams, AEM EMS and a Exedy Twin HD Clutch. On straight 94 octane my car put down 342hp on 22-23psi.
The best pass my car has made at the track is 11.04@128mph. My car is still full weight, running on 18" Volks w/ BFG KDW 2's, running in 92 degree heat with a spinning 1.74 60'.
If you have any questions or concerns feel free to ask.
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Buschur Racing Inc.
I love my 3065 on the street and at the track. It really is a great street/strip turbo! We sell alot of 3065 kits and everyone that is running them has had nothing but good things to say about it. I personally would chose and/or recommend the 3065 over a 50trim.
As for the lag..... I noticed it when I first changed over from the stock turbo to the 3065 but now its not even an issue because i'm used to the car. The lag everyone is concerned with really isnt that bad. My car is making 20psi around 4400rpm and full boost around 4700.
My car on 29psi and C16 put down 462whp on our Mustang dyno with a very conservative tune. I am still running the stock block, stock head, stock intake manifold and stock throttlebody. The other modifications done to my car are our stages 1-4 w/ HKS 272 cams, AEM EMS and a Exedy Twin HD Clutch. On straight 94 octane my car put down 342hp on 22-23psi.
The best pass my car has made at the track is 11.04@128mph. My car is still full weight, running on 18" Volks w/ BFG KDW 2's, running in 92 degree heat with a spinning 1.74 60'.
If you have any questions or concerns feel free to ask.
Jarrod
Buschur Racing Inc.
Jul 20, 2006, 07:01 AM
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Sorry i dont mean to hijack the thread but u say that on pump its making 342whp and on c16 462whp. do you have different maps for pump and c16 or do you just put in c16 and turn boost up?
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Jul 20, 2006, 07:08 AM
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^Jeff, show me any car in america running "antilag".
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Jul 20, 2006, 07:16 AM
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Sorry i dont mean to hijack the thread but u say that on pump its making 342whp and on c16 462whp. do you have different maps for pump and c16 or do you just put in c16 and turn boost up?
Jul 20, 2006, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by High_PSI
35R would make it the Easiest, the 50Trim would be the best STREET choice by far and AMS makes 500WHP with it, the 3065 is RIGHT inbetween.
Jul 20, 2006, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by scorke
^Jeff, show me any car in america running "antilag".Scorke
Originally Posted by swordfish
Ran it on my old GSX. Daily driver. Set speed and throttle position so it doesnt come on in traffic and around town unless you are flogging it. Works great, tough on turbines. Some say tough on valve seals but I never had a problem with Vitons. jeff
Back on topic.... I would say the 35R is the most popular.
Jul 20, 2006, 07:58 AM
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jrod, can your 3065 kit run off the stock ecu or do you need an aem ems to tune it?
what about ecutek or some type of piggy back? I don't really want to get an aem ems for OBDII compliant reasons here in houston
what about ecutek or some type of piggy back? I don't really want to get an aem ems for OBDII compliant reasons here in houston
Jul 20, 2006, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
There are tons of cars running antilag. Visit the DSM forums and you'll see a ton of big turbo folks running it. It may be hard on the turbo but people use it. Its no harder on the turbo than than 6k RPM stutterbox launches are on the tranny.
Back on topic.... I would say the 35R is the most popular.
Back on topic.... I would say the 35R is the most popular.
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